Thread 2 Burnham : Coragem e Esperança.

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I know. He’s really got The Telegraph running scared, it’s crammed with horrified stories heavily sprinkled with “might” and “considering”.

It would put a big spoke in the "we are the voice of the silenced majority" rhetoric and his side hustle as a living patron saint for the angry disenfranchised. It's why losing Gorton and Denton and Maker field was so funny. The white working class demographic was supposed to be his and to an extent the media also bought into that narrative. But if you looked at how the voting went there it wasn't just that "the Muslims" turned out for the Greens. It was also very clear that not enough of the "ordinary British people" demographic turned out for Reform. So they lost. All the bleating about family votes couldn't hide that. And that was compounded in Makerfield where there weren't any sinister Muslims family voters to thwart them and they still lost massively.

It's not that there aren't people who support Reform. Clearly there are and there are people who like what Farage says. But the overall pattern of the by-elections has been to show that that isn't even the majority of the demographic Farage claims to speak for let alone the whole country. He doesn't even need to lose to Binface. Anything less than a resounding win is enough.

And also undertands that tackling the causes of NEET will take investment. The Tories never understood that one.

Essentially we have a shortage of fascists.

And the ones that we do have aren't stupid enough to trust Farage presumably.

John Cleese is supporting Lowe

Neither alarming or surprising.

True. I don't know why it even made the news.

The world is burning down, drowning in floods, war on the horizon, earthquakes (incidentally there was a mild tremor in our region this morning, my tea jumped a bit), but John Cleese supports Lowe - wow.

Cleese went off piste a while ago. It is sad, though.

Polanski on Newsnight.

Which is why they objected to the idea of putting the money where the mouth is.

Polanski's refused to apologise.

Is he just a naive XTC fan?

He didn't know it was a lyric from a song.

Really???

Surely that makes it worse.

Did he say why?

He said Reform will just get over-excited if he does.

Thanks. What an idiotic approach.

He certainly knows how to stamp on any grain of respect I might have had for him. I can usually appreciate where he's coming from, even if I disagree with him but now he's just being a fucking prat.

It's a ridiculous stance. I do something hurtful unintentionally to someone, I apologise and try to fix it. If I deliberately do something, like hell am I apologising.

His stance is counter intuitive to my idea of very basic decency. This is what happens when you play at politics, rather than a genuine desire to do the right thing.

I find it very sad. I always enjoyed watching shows like Fawlty Towers and Life of Brian. It’s very disappointing, though sadly not surprising.

Totally.

They never did grasp that austerity and cutting sure start centres etc would lead to - well what it led to.

This current cohort of NEETS the past few years are the cohort who’s families lost out on the early start interventions.

I’m really pleased with Burnhams stance on education and education reforms so far. I’ve always said that education has become too narrow and we disenfranchise young people too early because we try and for them into a nice little box.

I hated the compulsory resits of have English and maths. Not that only some kind of necessary further study in these subjects shouldn’t be provided where someone doesn’t meet a standard but because I think when we have a problem with the MH of young people putting them through the same exam to fail over and over just lowers MH further.

Im hoping his reforms tackle not only the NEETs but also MH by giving young open hope and achievement.

I certainly agree with the need to readjust expectations of training at and after school. Blair was the main offender in creating pointless hopes for people at low-ranking universities. It’s interesting that the emphasis on practical skills that secondary moderns, FE colleges and Polys concentrated on is now back. Quite right too.

But the rest is nonsense. Burnham’s no more likely to solve the NEETS problem without growth in the economy and the end of welfare disincentives than any previous government.