Oh, peacemaker, peacemaker make me some peace - Trump Thread #167

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Many, many more months of the Mango Mussolini's maniacal merde.

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It is official, Trump will have to liaise with Burham regarding UK, in the very near future.
I think Trump is going to get the rough treatment, around the world, going forward.
Trump may lose his main weapon of punishment, tariffs. But he now has a Pirate float to his disposition, chasing ships on high seas for some $$$$$$.
I think we should stop manufacturing and stocking and sales of all orange tanning products and orange make up. That will send him into a spiral.

It is clear that all that moves this shite show we are in is money, money, money!
You are full on right that the only thing we need to keep an eye is the money.
They will bomb, fire, kill, or whatever, anyone and anything that needs to be done in the path to their dollars. Zero any other considerations. It is just pure $$$$$$.

I’m of the opinion that it’s “cock up over conspiracy” almost every time. The vast majority of folk are not smart enough to pull off even a basic conspiracy (let alone keeping all the other people who are in on it quiet) so the chances of something elaborate happening are close to zero.

Greed, fraud and just plain nastiness are another category altogether.

I’m wondering if the 20% piracy tax is just something Trump put out there. There are no details on how it’ll be enforced, a bit like when he insisted everyone sign onto the Abraham Accords. I think he’ll walk it back as a ‘generous gesture’ to the rest of the world.

My guess is to be paid upfront, in Trump Crapto currency. Failure to pay means the US navy will attack you.

Should be fun when they try to stop a PRC state owned tanker and ask for $24 million in fees, please send payment to DonniePOTUS-craptocoin at gmail. Failure to pay means we keep the ship and all the oil in it. Have a nice day.

God forbid anyone should hold them accountable for their murdering ways.

Marco Rubio launches campaign to dismantle international criminal court.
Trump’s secretary of state claims the global tribunal is interfering with US military and law enforcement operations.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/13/marco-rubio-dismantle-international-criminal-court?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

https://apnews.com/article/iran-war-american-troops-casualties-9e0b417663ff93676edda1345f2905d2

US military death toll in Iran war rises to 14 after Navy pilot death this month

I agree. I listened to an interesting discussion this morning with an expert on Maritime Law worldwide. He cannot do this, it is against the law, and Maritime Law would have to be changed to allow it.
And the reason is, it is against Maritime Law because it sets a precedent, and everyone and their brother would be charging to sail through waters like us and France and the English Channel!

everyone and their brother would be charging to sail through waters like us and France and the English Channel!

Sounds like a plan.

The experts are saying that Iran's toll was more reasonable

Yeah, but it will be Trump charging ships to use the Channel. He will claim it as his idea, so he sets all charges and gets all the money.

Still illegal under UNCLOS though.

A buck a barrel under Iran rules. And checks price ..... $16.8 under Trump. Hmmm.

Ha ha. And it depends on how he defines the extent of the strait "charge area". Because the oil price can change as ships transit, In fact, wait a mo.... see if I can get a handle on this. If 4 very large tankers enter, each with 3 million barrels aboard, then paying a 20% fee on 12 million barrels of oil going in might put the price of oil up. So they will need to pay an excess on entering.

So with Trumps plan, inside the gulf at any one time, there will be a massive accumulation of loaded tankers waiting for the price to go down. Then when the price drops there will be a massive rush for the gate, and that might push the price up again.

My take after reading that article. Welcome WWIII.

Even Iran's saying their toll was fairer!!

😂You're over thinking it.

My prediction. It will be the price paid as per the contract to purchase. This will then lead to the SoH equivalent of dropping the house price but charging ££££ for the curtains to avoid paying stamp duty.

You cannot make this out...........

Let's go for it. Charge 100% to all US vessels. Shall we charge for the use of air space? And land bases? That is IF we decide to allow use? We can also cancel all trade from and to the US.

Trump only gets away with this because other nations are not lowering their standards to this sort of game. And he knows they will not. So he banks on it. But... eventually, he may stretch it too far, and the consequences will be this sort of thing.
Though, Trump does not care, because he will soon die, they will not get a demented elderly man in prison, and he has already cashed a fortune! So he could not care any less.

I know I am overthinking it. But is it not the case already that in times of low oil prices many companies will bunker oil in tankers and wait for the price to increase. I don't mean the liner tanker services or the big oil owned tankers.

I remember reading somewhere that is why likes of Singapore can have so many ships hanging around. Many sit there loaded waiting to sell ?

In other words the Irish were treated precisely as the English of the same class were, only without the option of going to work in a factory for a very low wage.

If you can own property, you're not a slave. Because you have some rights in law (which is what ownership is).

Slaves have zero rights. Remember when Britain "abolished" the slave trade, the government had to pay the equivalent of hundreds of billions of pounds compensation to the slaveowners. Which being rolled into the national debt means we (UK subjects) are still paying for it.

E. Jean Carroll just received Trump's $5 million — plus interest.

Despite Trump's repeated attempts to block Carroll from receiving the money, $5,625,005.48 was disbursed to Carroll's legal team this week.

^https://www.ms.now/news/e-jean-carroll-finally-gets-trumps-5-million-plus-interest^

"This will be a different event, much more powerful."

Not Trump that said that. It was Netanyahu. A few hours ago.

Normal service has resumed - back to the pool.

Tuesday, July 14, 2026 1:49 AM Truth Social

We drained the beautiful "Reflecting Pool" today in order to fix the scars and damage that was done by the Vandals two weeks ago. We wanted to wait until after the July 4th Weekend. The slashes were 300 yards long, and the floor of the pool was cut and then pulled upward, with great force, by these thugs. The Parks Department had to empty the water in order to fix the water tight basin. It will be refilled and put back into service soon. These Country hating sleazebags should pay a big price for the damage done. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! President DJT

And , as he appears to do often, a follow up an hour later. Wonder what he does in these hours in between? Maybe he makes a post then checks the news for an hour to see if it is mentioned.

Tuesday, July 14, 2026 2:53 AM Truth Social

ABC Fake News and its shaky anchor, David Muir, said that the Reflecting Pool was drained to address Peeling Paint (there is no paint, it was slashed with a knife, or box cutter, high grade colored waterproofing liner - it was VANDALISM!) and Algae Blooms (also caused by Vandals, but removed long ago!). In other words, the story was FAKE NEWS, but heavily slanted away from the real cause of the problem, Vandalism. It will be fixed soon, and better than ever. 60 monuments and fountains have been cleaned and fully renovated in D.C., and crime is at record lows! Washington has never looked better, or been safer! President DJT

I did see that he was appealing the release of the funds ... but legal opinion was that they would be released.

Of course that's just the start. There's still more to come. Plus whatever a court awards for the repeated a few weeks ago.

Vandals!