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Oh, peacemaker, peacemaker make me some peace - Trump Thread #167

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Spandauer · 08/07/2026 11:00

Many, many more months of the Mango Mussolini's maniacal merde.

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Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 13/07/2026 11:14

logicisall · 13/07/2026 10:57

The defense ministry said the three border posts sustained material damage, while the offshore drilling platform operated by Kuwait Oil Company was struck by a hostile drone. The attack injured one worker, who is receiving medical treatment.

As more GCC are attacked by Iran, how long till they switch from defensive shooting down of drones etc and start attacking?

Who exactly can they target, though, and how? (Sorry if this is a particularly stupid question, I just can’t get my head round how that would work?)

logicisall · 13/07/2026 11:23

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 13/07/2026 11:14

Who exactly can they target, though, and how? (Sorry if this is a particularly stupid question, I just can’t get my head round how that would work?)

Iran, the country attacking them.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 13/07/2026 11:31

logicisall · 13/07/2026 11:23

Iran, the country attacking them.

My brain has turned to mush, thank you for correcting me so politely, @logicisall.

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logicisall · 13/07/2026 11:39

Re Kuwait. The Ministry of Defense is concentrating on defence actions, while The Foreign Affairs Ministry is looking at effect on foreign policy relationships in the region. Sky News expert says that GCC just want the oil to flow but Iran is now emboldened in efforts to control the Strait.
I think that speculation just goes round 'he said, she said' routes and we just have to see how the power plays on both sides...play out. But I'm now envisaging a different possible (and horrifying) scenario where the countries being attacked by Iran actively respond with attacks on their own. Lets hope that jaw, jaw wins.

More from Kuwait Times reporting.

It warned that the continued attacks represented a dangerous escalation that could further destabilize the region, threaten regional peace and security, and undermine diplomatic efforts aimed at reducing tensions and resolving disputes through peaceful means. The ministry reaffirmed that Kuwait’s security, sovereignty and territorial integrity were non-negotiable, stressing that the country reserved its full right to take all necessary measures to protect its security and sovereignty in accordance with international law and the UN Charter.

Kuwait also condemned Iranian attacks targeting Bahrain, Oman, Qatar and Jordan, calling them a blatant escalation and a serious violation of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of those countries. The foreign ministry reiterated Kuwait’s full solidarity with the four countries and its support for all measures they take to safeguard their security, stability and sovereignty. It also renewed its call on Iran to immediately cease such actions, respect the sovereignty of states and resolve disputes through dialogue and peaceful means.

RedTagAlan · 13/07/2026 11:44

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 13/07/2026 11:12

Responsibility to themselves is the only responsibility which McConnell family and team are committed to. Electorate? Pah, what’s that, unimportant, doesn’t count in the grand scheme of things.
Absolute sewers (not the embroidery kind), the lot of them.

When I think of how influential McConnnell was, probably the most impactful US politician in many decades, it's a bit odd to see him fade off the radar like this. Anything the repugs have today is really down to him, and here he is being swept under the MAGA rug.

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2026 11:48

logicisall · 13/07/2026 11:39

Re Kuwait. The Ministry of Defense is concentrating on defence actions, while The Foreign Affairs Ministry is looking at effect on foreign policy relationships in the region. Sky News expert says that GCC just want the oil to flow but Iran is now emboldened in efforts to control the Strait.
I think that speculation just goes round 'he said, she said' routes and we just have to see how the power plays on both sides...play out. But I'm now envisaging a different possible (and horrifying) scenario where the countries being attacked by Iran actively respond with attacks on their own. Lets hope that jaw, jaw wins.

More from Kuwait Times reporting.

It warned that the continued attacks represented a dangerous escalation that could further destabilize the region, threaten regional peace and security, and undermine diplomatic efforts aimed at reducing tensions and resolving disputes through peaceful means. The ministry reaffirmed that Kuwait’s security, sovereignty and territorial integrity were non-negotiable, stressing that the country reserved its full right to take all necessary measures to protect its security and sovereignty in accordance with international law and the UN Charter.

Kuwait also condemned Iranian attacks targeting Bahrain, Oman, Qatar and Jordan, calling them a blatant escalation and a serious violation of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of those countries. The foreign ministry reiterated Kuwait’s full solidarity with the four countries and its support for all measures they take to safeguard their security, stability and sovereignty. It also renewed its call on Iran to immediately cease such actions, respect the sovereignty of states and resolve disputes through dialogue and peaceful means.

AI is already telling the Gulf states that the best course of action would be to tell the US to fuck off in words and deeds. They are 't losing much defensively, and will be able to negotiate with Iran in good faith.

logicisall · 13/07/2026 13:29

I agree with AI on that, however easier said than done, as some countries will be unwilling to abandon their relationship with the US.

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2026 14:20

logicisall · 13/07/2026 13:29

I agree with AI on that, however easier said than done, as some countries will be unwilling to abandon their relationship with the US.

AI delivers the evidence based answer, not the politically acceptable one.

Citizens of those countries should be aware that their security is being traded for US friendship - whatever US friendship is worth. Whether they are, or will be is another matter.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 13/07/2026 14:32

I know one should not speak ill of the dead, and never speak of the dead except to praise them, but there are definitely people who make me feel I don't want to follow those rules. Lindsey Graham was one of them.

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2026 14:34

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 13/07/2026 14:32

I know one should not speak ill of the dead, and never speak of the dead except to praise them, but there are definitely people who make me feel I don't want to follow those rules. Lindsey Graham was one of them.

Alice Roosevelt should be our guide here ...

RedTagAlan · 13/07/2026 14:40

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2026 14:20

AI delivers the evidence based answer, not the politically acceptable one.

Citizens of those countries should be aware that their security is being traded for US friendship - whatever US friendship is worth. Whether they are, or will be is another matter.

Not a lot the citizens can do given that they are all authoritarian states. If that makes any difference really.

If I think of the Philippines for example. A democracy, and Duterte was anti US and pro PRC. But the citizens decided to go for Marcos, because he is anti PRC and pro US. And was the big thing in the election. Then of course Trump happened. And the citizens are now protesting against Marcos because they don't like Trump. Especially with the fuel shortage they have.

I don't really know. But one thing for sure. Trump is really a disaster for everyone. Except his money mates, Putin, and the CPC.

I was wondering if there are any historical examples of a similar thing with the US now ? Be friends with them, and they station 15k troops in your country. It's almost like a tribute system really ?

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 13/07/2026 14:43

AcrossthePond55
I suppose it was for PR purposes, but I found it interesting that Yertle was wearing a shirt & jeans in that pic. Who gets gussied up to have their picture taken when they're in the hospital.

I suppose that might be explained in his (long, I think maybe someone else did the actual writing) message: "I've been able to move from hospital care to a rehabilitation centre where I'll keep regaining my strength." Maybe in rehab you're encouraged to get dressed rather than wear pyjamas all day, to ease you back to ordinary life.

Polio does come back to haunt people later in their lives; two of the four people I have known well who had it in their teens and twenties started to fall over for no apparent reason in their seventies, and were told it was because of having had polio. There were exercises to do, but they didn't seem to help much. (The other two died young.)

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2026 15:01

Not a lot the citizens can do given that they are all authoritarian states. If that makes any difference really.

"Authoritarian" is a little bit of a red herring here. I mean look at how easily the US population has been trained to sacrifice it's well being for an elite.

DuncinToffee · 13/07/2026 16:05

He has been busy phoning Fox News

Trump on Lindsey Graham: "He had one bad moment in the January 6 thing when he stood up 'alright, now I've had it, that's it, I can't do it anymore' then he called me about 40 minutes later and said, 'Did I really said that? I can't believe it.' And he took it back."

Trump: "We're gonna keep the strait, and we'll probably run it. We'll become the guardian of the strait. We should be reimbursed for that. When we do that, we're gonna be reimbursed. We're gonna get paid."

AcrossthePond55 · 13/07/2026 16:09

DuncinToffee · 13/07/2026 16:05

He has been busy phoning Fox News

Trump on Lindsey Graham: "He had one bad moment in the January 6 thing when he stood up 'alright, now I've had it, that's it, I can't do it anymore' then he called me about 40 minutes later and said, 'Did I really said that? I can't believe it.' And he took it back."

Trump: "We're gonna keep the strait, and we'll probably run it. We'll become the guardian of the strait. We should be reimbursed for that. When we do that, we're gonna be reimbursed. We're gonna get paid."

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Oh I think you must have misquoted! I'm sure the correct quote is "'Did I really said that, SIR? I can't believe it.' And he took it back." 🙄

RedTagAlan · 13/07/2026 16:09

IT'S 20% THEN....

“The U.S.A. will be, from this point forward, known as ‘THE GUARDIAN OF THE HORMUZ STRAIT,’ but as such, and as a matter of FAIRNESS, will be reimbursed, at the rate of 20% on all cargo shipped, for any and all costs necessary to do the job of providing safety and security to this very volatile section of the World,”

Bit of a conflict of interest there Don. And there is this too.

The Hormuz Strait is OPEN, and will remain OPEN, with or without Iran. We are reinstating the THE IRANIAN BLOCKADE, so named because it is only stopping Iran’s ships or customers from entering or leaving. All other countries will have fair and open use of the Strait,”

The above was posted by Trump on his Truth social. He was also talking to Fox news, and he said :

“We hit them very hard last night. Every time they send a drone, we hit them very hard. But we had a deal. What nobody knows, we had a deal. It was a done deal, and then they broke it. They always break it. We’ve had 10 deals with these people, and so we’re just going to hit them very hard,”

“Now we’re going to guard it, and we’re going to get paid for guarding it,”

So nobody knows you had a deal ? Really ? Is this a secret deal you had Don ? What was it, 10% ?

DuncinToffee · 13/07/2026 16:14

https://bsky.app/profile/davidjbier.bsky.social/post/3mqjwcif2s22g

ICE apparently shot and killed another person in Maine today, and they have pushed all observers and media 7-8 blocks away from the scene.

AcrossthePond55 · 13/07/2026 16:16

“The U.S.A. will be, from this point forward, known as ‘THE GUARDIAN OF THE HORMUZ STRAIT,"

Reminds me of when DS1 was about five and would stalk into the living room wearing his hooded bat-cape & bat-PJs, stand arms akimbo, and announce in his best growly-voice "I am BATMAN!!!".

My reaction to both statements is the same. Cowering in mock fear whilst laughing hard inside.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 13/07/2026 16:22

The cat here regularly tells us that henceforth we should address her as Deathclaw.

Or at least, we think that's what she is saying. It might just be a standard complaint about the quality of the service round here.

GoodHonest · 13/07/2026 16:27

So it's not ok for Iran to charge a toll because there should be free rite of passage....but Dimwit Don will charge 20%.

What an utter wanker.

RedTagAlan · 13/07/2026 16:35

GoodHonest · 13/07/2026 16:27

So it's not ok for Iran to charge a toll because there should be free rite of passage....but Dimwit Don will charge 20%.

What an utter wanker.

Edited

That's 25% of the worlds oil up 20%. So that oil at $100 a barrel will now be $120.

Iran was charging $1 per barrel, so far as can be worked out. Flat rate. So now with Trump wanting a %, all be has to do to make even more money is to put oil prices up. And he appears to be expert at that.

AnyDayNowChuckJacksonNSoul · 13/07/2026 16:53

He's a thief gangster cunt..was this the end game when he opened the can of worms that didn't need opened.
20%..capiche.

DuncinToffee · 13/07/2026 17:36

https://bsky.app/profile/chrisgeidner.bsky.social/post/3mqk2mdfpkk2q

BREAKING: Federal judge finds that Trump's IRS suit was improper because Trump controlled both sides of the litigation.

Judge Kathleen Williams also sanctions Trump's lawyers, issues monetary sanctions, and harshly criticizes DOJ's "untenable" conduct.

More to come at Law Dork: https://www.lawdork.com/

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2026 18:11

DuncinToffee · 13/07/2026 17:36

https://bsky.app/profile/chrisgeidner.bsky.social/post/3mqk2mdfpkk2q

BREAKING: Federal judge finds that Trump's IRS suit was improper because Trump controlled both sides of the litigation.

Judge Kathleen Williams also sanctions Trump's lawyers, issues monetary sanctions, and harshly criticizes DOJ's "untenable" conduct.

More to come at Law Dork: https://www.lawdork.com/

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