Preston Davey- sentences. Content warning - concerns CSA. (added my MNHQ)

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Preston Davey - whole life term for murderer and 25 years for the partner.
Let’s hope and pray yet again things change so no more poor babies and children die.

I was tearful at the birth mother"s statement until I read about her crime,. considering her past crimes the family shouldn"t have made any statements today, a small statement from the foster parents would have been a sufficient tribute IMO.

That's horrible. Have some compassion.

Did you read about her crime?

Thats the whole pojnt babies never come up for adoption its always older children, thats why everyone is outraged as many familes that have tried for years to get pregnant and tried IVF and miscarriried many times and this baby was quickly given to 2 men to tick a box, and 1 in.5 adoption is a failed adoption the 1st time that baby was injured he should have been removed.....i worked with social workers for years i dont like them,

He wont last long hes a mummys boy and weak ,

They’ll be ‘protected’ on the nonce wing in prison. Absolutely no way will they be put with regular prisoners, they’d be torn apart within hours. Shame.

You can't introduce the death penalty for individual cases, however horrendous they are. A while back Preston Davey's mother might well have faced the death penalty.

Whilst what she did was awful, no one is going to execute a 14 yr old.

My child went to A&E once because his ear started oozing and it was a Friday night so no GP till Monday. Ear infection of course and he got the banana medicine antibiotics. We had a call from a health visitor the following week to check up why we'd attended A&E and what the outcome had been. For a simple ear infection. No history, no other issues, and we're both DBS checked for our jobs. I was pleased they were being so thorough with kids' welfare. So where on earth were those safeguards when this poor little boy was in hospital multiple times? I am going to be honest and say I do wonder if nobody wanted to look homophobic for suggesting that two men were either not parenting well or being actively harmful.

I've seen it more often in heterosexual relationships, the man is always the one that insists the house be kept clean and tidy. My personal concern is with a close family member who has no children.

But child abusers are going to choose careers that enable them to come into contact with children a lot, teachers, nursery workers, priests, sports trainers , scouts etc. I am not tarring all people working in these professions of course, who are caring, protective and devoted to children, but they are the sorts of jobs where they are not likely to be suspected, and they are cunning and good at hiding things. although understandably people can’t be blamed for being wary now. Child abuse has been going on for many years, hidden, with people frightened to speak out. We should not be so trusting. I would rather report any fears I had and they turned out to be unfounded, rather than keeping them to myself only to be proved right and for a child to suffer.

Prisoners die far earlier than the general population. I suspect these two won't be around in ten years.

Leiland James - corkhill was killed by his adoptive mother. This is nothing to with sexuality or gender. Sadly only they will ever really know why they did it.

Having her baby raped to death is not part of her sentence!

Its just a fact. Whether we approve or not, unless they live in solitary confinement for life one of the others will kill them opportunistically.
I used to work in a prison.
Nobody ever chooses solitary confinement.

Absolutely. I was upset that the woman who gave birth to him, didn't care for him in any way, was allowed the right to give a statement.
She was also a murderer

She dumped a 71 year old woman's body, after killing her, in a canal. Placed the body in a wheelie bin with the help of an accomplice to wheel it to the canal. The 71 year old was vulnerable and she and her friend tortured her. She was 14 years old when she did it. Was a repeat offender when on release. Drug supply a drug taking being her speciality.

She lost all rights to say anything, she is also a disgusting human

A history of abuse is a reason, but not an excuse.

I have close family and friends who suffered horrific sexual, emotional and physical abuse in childhood and are fantastic parents. These men CHOSE to behave in this abhorrent way.

There is always a lack of funding. Insufficient social workers and immense caseloads. As a teacher I often feel they lack the guts to act but on the other hand the abuse they are subjected to is totally out of order.

Plenty of people struggle with looking after children. Very few go on to rape a tiny child and abuse him until he dies.

I've lost my temper with DS and shouted at him. That's it. I'm single and don't get much time to myself and parenting is bloody hard work. There's been two occasions I've wanted to hurt him and I've put him somewhere safe and left the room to calm down. There's been several occasions I've hurt myself because I've got completely overwhelmed and had a meltdown though.

@Sunglade I feel like I've lost my faith in humanity. This case made something inside me break.

It may well be the case that the vile Varley knew exactly the background of Preston's mother and being a year head and a safeguarding leader, was able to talk the talk regarding the adoption.

Varley knew exactly what he was doing. He's an arch manipulator.

Yes I did. It doesn't deny the fact she is Preston's birth mother and would have wanted him to have a good life. Life is not always so black and white.

That was my point really, he was in contact with children in his capacity as a teacher and it has made me wonder if anyone had a feeling or indeed any experience that he was such a deviant.

That’s exactly my point. I would damn well hope that investigations into his conduct are already underway but I have a horrible feeling that it won’t be.