Preston Davey- sentences. Content warning - concerns CSA. (added my MNHQ)

[Fiddlesticks1]

Preston Davey - whole life term for murderer and 25 years for the partner.
Let’s hope and pray yet again things change so no more poor babies and children die.

It’s oddly inconsistent though. You got a call for an ear infection, which suggests that the HV was notified an A&E visit took place but not given any details. We took our toddler DD to A&E after she fell all the way down the stairs, and no one contacted us at all. A couple of yrs later 111 sent us in after she vomited the day after hitting her head. Again, no contact. Both of those are objectively far more concerning than an ear infection.
And the reason isn’t that someone was afraid of being accused of homophobia or racism with us, a straight white couple.

I agree. Too often parents who have children removed then blame social workers. Where is their own accountability?

Sorry but that’s nonsense. She’s the mother of the child. She committed a horrid murder nearly 30 years ago, as a child herself. As someone else said rightly said, her son being sexually abused to death is not part of her punishment.

She can still love her child regardless of her criminal history. If she had abused Preston then fair enough, but she did not.

She has every right to issue a statement.

No, but something along the lines of "I can now empathise more with my victim"s family " would have been helpful.

This with bells on. Many many years ago, and in another country, I was an on-call safeguarding team member for about a year. We had a report, through the mother, that her daughters were telling her that their father was making them very uncomfortable when they stayed with him on his days to have them. We investigated. Warned him. He was a professional, good job, house, all the trappings of success. And he sat and smirked at us and told us he would carry on as he was because we had nothing on him. Despite us knowing he had told his daughters we had arrested him and dragged him away in handcuffs, when in fact we had invited him in for an interview. I wanted to keep pursuing things, but was told by the higher ups we had no grounds to intervene further and would get sued if we did. All I could do was try to do some safety planning with the girls who were young teens at the time. I still wonder what happened and hope to god the mother did what she hinted she would do and moved away with them without him knowing where she was. It was soul destroying and I stopped doing that work soon after. I hope to god those girls were ok and us interviewing him at least gave him pause for thought.

Yes.
And she’s in prison for that.

Her baby was raped to death. She’s allowed to be upset.

That wouldn’t really be appropriate for a statement about her son’s death though.

It’s meant to be about her son and her grief, there is no reason to invite public speculation about the murder she committed in 1998 (at 14 years old).

She's not in prison for that horrific murder she committed though. She's a repeat offender when released. She conceived and gave birth to Preston when high on drugs and at the age of 39. Varley, who murdered baby Preston, knew this on adoption.

These men are predators.
It’s irrelevant how the baby’s came to be in the care system, because if it hadn’t been him, they would have adopted a different baby and treated that baby in exactly the same way.

Children in care should be safe in the homes of state sanctioned care providers. But they’re not. That is the issue.

We currently remove children from one situation and far too often subject them to even worse abuse.

That is not ok and that is what we should be addressing.

What do you want from me here?

“oh yes you’re right. She deserved it”

This is such a disgusting direction

What men are predators though? Define 'these men'.

None of the posters criticising the mother, and talking about how she also failed him, have mentioned the biological father’s statement. The father who never even met his baby.

Are you not aware of the topic of the thread?

1. Being exhausted and not coping is a familiar experience for many parents, we don't go on to abuse children - it's a bullshit perpetrator excuse

1. If he was truly struggling he had a responsibility to seek definitive help and they were I believe in the process of formal adoption - you surely say at any of the many meetings or to your assigned case worker that the placement has broken down

This is just excusing paedophilia SA and physical abuse on behalf of the judge, the perpetrator and anyone who buys into his bullshit failure as a human being

No she doesn't deserve the right, at all. She is in her 40s now. So, not a child herself.
If she cared enough about the child she gave birth to, he would still be here.
Torturing an elderly lady to death at 14, is not just a "horrid" crime

He’d be here.
But they’d have done the same thing to a different baby.

You have deliberately misunderstood.

Plus you quote things I never said.

Your response is abusive.

Nobody is denying her her private feelings, but if you murder pensioners and then wheel the body around town in a bin before dumping it in a canal then use the money stolen from them to stuff your evil little face with snacks you don"t deserve to have a long rambling victim statement read out on national TV when the bad things happen to you. If you have fucked up and murdered someone when you are a teen just STFU when the bad thing happens to you and deal with it privately, this clown has been posting party shots all over social media from every time they were released from prison, they do not give a fuck about the person they murdered or their family.

A woman’s baby was raped to death by care providers, sanctioned and screened by the state, and you’re saying she has no right to grieve or speak publicly about it.

I’d say that was abusive.

She probably doesn’t care about the person she murdered.
That’s a reasonable criticism.

To say that means she can’t publicly speak about her baby, who was raped to death, is insane.

You seem to want to have a fight with an agenda you're not making clear.

Just be honest.

Well too bad, she does have the right. You’ll have to just get over it. Her child being murder we isn't some kind of fucked up karma, and she does have every right to be devastated.

Totally agree with you. She is receiving the punishment for the crimes she's committed. And besides which, the aim of prison is to keep society safe, rather than to punish offenders.

I can't imagine the pain of knowing your child has gone through something so incredibly horrendous. I can't see who it harms to allow her to make her statement.

The only people responsible for Preston's suffering and subsequent death are the men who abused him. Blaming the mother when she must be in so much unimaginable pain already is just not helpful.

What agenda?

Just to clarify on that specifically- the paediatric a+e reports (literally just baby attended, which location, with who and demographic info) are sent to school nurse, HV or 0-19 each week.

That's all that's sent. Sometimes the duty HV or SN might do the check in call backs but depends on capacity, caseloads, staffing levels, if the main visits are breaching service levels the a+e's may or mayn't be all called through. Really depends. And that's not necessarily the process everywhere.

....that's an explanation of a pp's experience.

Im not explaining any of the actions or lack thereof of the professionals involved in this awful case - just to clarify, no pile on please