Labour isn't Working - Thread 34

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The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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I really do admire her. She is so clear, and a little brave, I think.

I can't believe they sent Lammy out to do the media round this morning tbh. How to make an appalling situation even worse - send Lammy out to speak. Do they think there is some political gain in his convo with Vance? Or is it his legal expertise that we're supposed to be impressed by? Beggars belief.

Yep, spot on. 😁

"Send in the Clowns": The song itself isn't relevant, but every time Lammy makes an appearance it goes through my mind. He really is a complete clown and totally out of his depth.

Bollard is probably dreaming of the day he said no for 48 hours and somehow it was spun into a moral thing.

So he wheels out clown Lammy saying no but Labour have lost the entire crowd by now.

Ah yes, you're right. The moral crusade that was a big fat lie.

AlternativeView · Today 07:53
Oh dear ,kier will cut budgets to the NHs ,schools and net zero to fund defence spending (.the times

There’s not much point increasing defence spending as who is going to join the army these days since anyone fighting the enemy will be sued by Lord Harmer

What I mean is, how could they make him look like the aggressor?

I'd like to hear more about that story, but I'm not sure the headline reflects the article

The article says that "the initial police statement later that morning said: 'It was reported two men had been assaulted by an unknown man.'"

Literally true, but obviously very misleading, since the report of assault was by Henry's killer and his killer's family. And since it was in the morning, the police can't reasonably claim ignorance of the fact that Henry had been stabbed and that his killer had lied about the events of that night.

Unbelievably, the article says that the next update they planned to publish "would again imply that he was the initial aggressor."

So the police made him look like the aggressor by framing their statement with the murderer's lies. Which they knew were lies. Using the old trick of 'it was reported that'.

Their motive for doing so - and whether it was a deliberately misleading statement - is what I think needs to be addressed.

Ever see him on Mastermind? It would be funny, but these people are the best they could come up with to run the country.

I just saw news reports, that yet again they’re being called out on lack of investment in our armed forces. They’ve been warned time and again, while things continue to heat up and yet still, they sit on their hands and do absolutely nothing.

The headlines said that they'd cut education and NHS to raise the money for the armed forces.

Two sacred cows for many voters.

Labour’s ban on new oil and gas drilling licences in the North Sea is “economic madness”, a trade union leader has claimed.

Gary Smith, the general secretary of the GMB, one of Labour’s biggest union donors, said that the Government’s energy policy was not only hitting jobs but also driving his members to Reform UK.

“Sacking thousands of workers who currently work in the North Sea is economic madness. It’s more akin to Thatcher and what she did to Middlesbrough in the 1980s,” he told Times Radio.

Just heard this on the radio, looked up full quote.

Good morning 😁

The Times reporting that Bollard is about to announce a social media ban for children. Another u-turn, and another win for Kemi.

“Keir has entered his legacy era,” one minister said. “The conversations are now all, ‘What is announceable in time before Makerfield?’”

“We can sell it around creating long-term culture change in the way children use social media,” they said.
Another source said ministers were “scrambling” to see “what is announceable” as part of the speech.
They added that “if there was no by-election this month, we would not be going at this pace”.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/f914f960-596f-4355-9f12-625e4409f199?shareToken=f61d01fd48db456875e46d6605c68b65

Good. They've got this so wrong.
Ed Milliband needs to have his wings clipped before he causes any more damage. I hope the next PM bins him off out of cabinet.

Yes, they're falling over themselves with announcements - tone-deaf as usual, Bollard's just announced their investment in AI.

Can someone point me, please, to an announcement somewhere about Defence in case I missed it?

Agreed, the banishment of Miliband is urgent before he does any more damage. Mad as a hat.

No announcement yet afaik.

An ai announcement? Gosh, there was some significant push back on Blair's plea to push forward with the ai agenda from the loyal labour contingent last week. I wonder if it sounds sweeter out of Starmer's lips? It usually does.

Of course. It was ever thus.

Just read this morning's announcement. Jess Phillips mentioned this in her scathing resignation letter, but now Bollard swings into action in an act of self preservation.

@strawberrybubblegum thank you for highlighting the important part of the article which I completely missed 😳

That is really shocking. And much as I've always been pissed off with the way the so-called equality stuff goes, even I'm shocked by that.

In terms of social media for under 16, I'm not surprised - obviously it means the end of his crusade for votes for 16-year-olds but I always thought it was about getting data from people, so I was surprised that he was against it

Anyway, absolutely nothing about this government makes sense, but I'm really glad if people are starting to see through net zero. That would be something. But the damage that's been inflicted already is huge.

Karl Turner is pretty good on Labour. Talking about Lammy being embarrassing and shouldn’t be on the tv. Calls out his huge hypocrisy. Plus Labour should listen to Conservatives on oil and gas licences.

That and recognising the damaging nonsense that is VAT on education, Burnham should get him back in if he wins.

The fact that Jess P had to publicly shame him and resign to get it done shows how dysfunctional the party is, they sound utterly rudderless

This has really annoyed a lot of people - to the point where the comments have been switched off. It sends a message that the Labour government are not for all children - only the state educated ones.

Tbf we use state and I can see why it’s annoyed people. Just so typically irritating.

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