Labour isn't Working - Thread 34

[Nuthatch26]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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@EasternStandard i know right

Oh no. You'll need a other retreat to recover from this one. You're posts always make me laugh. 😂

So ideology and left vs right is more important than improved cancer care? I wish I was surprised but I'm not. Keep hearing Labour backbenchers pushing on this in the HoC.

Sir Keir Starmer had hoped to spend all summer fighting a futile battle for his own survival, after winning or losing the Makerfield by-election, depending on which way you look at it — not that there is any way that makes any kind of sense. Whoever does or doesn’t win, lose or draw makes no difference now. It’s all over.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/83ebdf6b-ac89-4d24-8e8b-6ce580137494?shareToken=0e10ef5553829ff169459ec8cfc66126

Finally. Please let it be so.

@Nuthatch26 thanks 😆 one question hs aways puzzled me when they flounce off and resign as so many do how do they get their salary ? Can they just resign with no notice period ?

I said the same to dh. How can they just resign so easily. Especially when they really do stop working like the Makerfield guy, that’s a big drop in household income (unless loaded generally of course)

I thought MPs got some kind of tapering off of their salary when they lose an election, but don’t know about resignations.

They seem to be quite louche about fucking off without a backward glance

haha quite 😬

This is about as good as it gets. Labour consumed with infighting, unable to push through their destructive agenda.

A general election right now could create a coalition government of the left which would be worse.

What more destruction can they do ? Bloody coalition of the left fux sake

Yep, it would be worse. It’s not clear that we would necessarily get coalition of the right.

You couldn't get a coalition of the left, even it you got Labour, Greens and LibDems into bed with each other, it still wouldn't get them over the threshold to form a government.

Together, the can cobble about 218 seats together. That's still 100 short.

I suppose if Labour gain in popularity that could change quickly, I suppose. I don't see it though, Burnham will offer a bounce as a fresh face but they have the same constraints.

The markets would crucify a cobbled together left gov. I can’t see they’d last long.

There’s still tax more spend more posters on here, it’s going to take a financial jolt to get us out of some of that belief.

They will tax the life out of the economy. Then they'll be back, cap in hand, to the bond markets.

The table is reassuring. There are other polls though. I really don’t want the Greens near anything. They are bat shit crazy.

The greens are completely terrifying, there's no two ways about it.

Oh Parsley 😂 😂. Even if I had been a fan of his previously, his sordid private life would have been crunch time for me. Gifts of clothing, apartment use, and that's before the Ukrainian models.

The woman is an eejit.

Oh yes the people that keep saying the tax burden isn’t at an all time high despite that being what all of the experts say…

There are going to have to be some very serious game plans thought up if the polls don’t change radically. Both the left and the right are in trouble with any coalition.

The Tories and Reform hate each other and any pact would be so fragile as to be more or less worthless. And Farage is such a toxic chancer that no Tory will want his stain to cling to them if things go south.

Some of Labour could co-habit with the absurd LibDems and looney tunes Greens. But there’s a substantial portion of Labour that would go beserk if Davey or Polanski got big government roles.

The real issue for the left, though, is that they’ve got nothing to agree on. Half of them want the 2000s and the other half want the 1970s. And if the ‘spray the NHS and welfare with cash’ crowd got their way the economy would go up in flames anyway.

So all parties will be looking for a way out as soon as they agree a way in.

Crazy days ahead, probably. I wonder if the Tories and Labour might end up being the best double-act!

I don't think Labour and Tories could form a coalition. It would break the matrix.

Yes, it is pretty much unthinkable (outside a European or world war).

But I just can’t see any combinations that could work. We’re a long way from the parties and times of Cameron and Clegg. Mostly because there are no Orange Book liberals left. They’ve all gone mad.

And if anyone gets into bed with the Greens, they’re doomed.