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Do you believe the Michael Jackson allegations part 2

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AutumnLover1990 · 18/05/2026 15:54

New thread 😀

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fundamentallyauthentic · 20/05/2026 14:02

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 13:55

They were legal.

Legal but admitted as evidence.

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 14:03

I dont know how he wasnt at least charged with child endangerment. He held his baby outside a fourth story window.

kkloo · 20/05/2026 14:05

fundamentallyauthentic · 20/05/2026 14:01

I’ve no idea what exactly he was alleged to be into but would guess that if he wanted to see images of naked images of boys (legal or not) he would have had the opportunity to see these, online. The internet was way past its infancy stage by the early to mid 00’s.

He also had the opportunity to see them in his bed.

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 14:06

How wasnt he charged with child endangerment at the time. He brought a young child on tour with him and shared a hotel room with him.

I cant understand it

fundamentallyauthentic · 20/05/2026 14:08

kkloo · 20/05/2026 14:05

He also had the opportunity to see them in his bed.

Yes, he did. No idea what your point is but, yeah.

Also, FYI there’s no such thing as child porn.

kkloo · 20/05/2026 14:14

fundamentallyauthentic · 20/05/2026 14:08

Yes, he did. No idea what your point is but, yeah.

Also, FYI there’s no such thing as child porn.

My point is obvious.

We've all managed to remain civil on this thread so far @fundamentallyauthentic so please don't start with the silly little digs trying to annoy people and cause arguments. There's really no need.

I am aware the name is due to be changed, but as it stands it hasn't been and we have all used the term 'child porn' for a long time so it will take time for people to get used to.

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 14:20

A lot of men are disgusting

Hubhubba26 · 20/05/2026 14:59

Animal torture? ? Really? Any evidence?

kkloo · 20/05/2026 15:08

MyTrivia · 20/05/2026 13:54

Since the books are not illegal he felt he could explain them. They aren’t a smoking gun even though there is only one reason a man would have books written by a pedophile for other pedophiles.

when I was looking at information around what was found in his house, there apparently was also photos of animal torture and some very disturbing drawings that he’d done. I think he was a disturbed individual.

Those reports aren't verified. The police said that some of it came from them and some came from the internet or unknown sources.

AutumnLover1990 · 20/05/2026 15:18

Hubhubba26 · 20/05/2026 14:59

Animal torture? ? Really? Any evidence?

I honestly don't buy the animal torture. Nope.

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fundamentallyauthentic · 20/05/2026 15:36

AutumnLover1990 · 20/05/2026 15:18

I honestly don't buy the animal torture. Nope.

Me neither. Add it onto the crap pile that’s been posted on the other thread (haven’t read this one in full yet).

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 15:37

AutumnLover1990 · 20/05/2026 15:18

I honestly don't buy the animal torture. Nope.

Well have you at least looked into the allegation before writing that

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 15:38

I sometimes find it bizarre that people defend a man who brought a child (that was not his) on tour with him and shared a hotel room with him

Hubhubba26 · 20/05/2026 16:01

So are we now starting a rumour that the Neverland Ranch zoo was actually a torture house. Oh and bubbles was a sex slave.

AutumnLover1990 · 20/05/2026 16:13

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 15:37

Well have you at least looked into the allegation before writing that

Yes!! And I'm still not buying it. How do we know it wasn't planted or sent in by some deranged sicko? We are talking about a guy who got security to move a bug from the stage because he didn't want to squash it.

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Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 16:35

AutumnLover1990 · 20/05/2026 16:13

Yes!! And I'm still not buying it. How do we know it wasn't planted or sent in by some deranged sicko? We are talking about a guy who got security to move a bug from the stage because he didn't want to squash it.

The bug doesnt really meam anything.

jimmy saville masqueraded as a do gooder , helping children, remember.

What do you think about michael jackson bringing a child on tour, and sharing a hotel room with the child?

kkloo · 20/05/2026 17:13

AutumnLover1990 · 20/05/2026 16:13

Yes!! And I'm still not buying it. How do we know it wasn't planted or sent in by some deranged sicko? We are talking about a guy who got security to move a bug from the stage because he didn't want to squash it.

Leaving aside what he did with the boys, he's not nearly as nice as you think he is. He's a huge misogynist. For all his talk about how his dad hurt him calling him names over his nose, Janet said he used to fat shame her when she was growing up and that he called her a pig, cow, slut etc. He was sooo manipulative with Lisa Marie to try to get her to have a baby.
He's incredibly narcissistic, and he made out he gave those boys a great time, but even if you believe he didn't abuse them several have said they were felt discarded and the pattern there is clear, yet apparently poor little Michael, loneliest man in the world said that he was really hurt when the world seemed to miss little Michael and hated when he grew up.

He may have donated to hospitals etc but when it came to those close to him it was all about him and what he was getting from it.

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 17:18

kkloo · 20/05/2026 17:13

Leaving aside what he did with the boys, he's not nearly as nice as you think he is. He's a huge misogynist. For all his talk about how his dad hurt him calling him names over his nose, Janet said he used to fat shame her when she was growing up and that he called her a pig, cow, slut etc. He was sooo manipulative with Lisa Marie to try to get her to have a baby.
He's incredibly narcissistic, and he made out he gave those boys a great time, but even if you believe he didn't abuse them several have said they were felt discarded and the pattern there is clear, yet apparently poor little Michael, loneliest man in the world said that he was really hurt when the world seemed to miss little Michael and hated when he grew up.

He may have donated to hospitals etc but when it came to those close to him it was all about him and what he was getting from it.

Who is nice ?

I feel like most people are rude and selfish.

We have forgotten how to be nice and caring to each other.

Hubhubba26 · 20/05/2026 17:23

Haha! Id forgotten about the bug on the stage. There's lots of anecdotal stories about mj and his love of animals. The bug on stage is just one. The concept of him carrying out animal torture is just bonkers.

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 17:28

Hubhubba26 · 20/05/2026 17:23

Haha! Id forgotten about the bug on the stage. There's lots of anecdotal stories about mj and his love of animals. The bug on stage is just one. The concept of him carrying out animal torture is just bonkers.

Like how the concept of Jimmy Saville who constantly helped unwell children and raised money for charity - was actually a paedophile is bonkers?

What about the teacher who has been in the news recently. Jamie varley. He was head of safeguarding. He is in the news for murdering a child.

Cruel people often pretend to be nice.

Hubhubba26 · 20/05/2026 17:30

I'm sure some people do fake niceness

kkloo · 20/05/2026 17:31

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 17:18

Who is nice ?

I feel like most people are rude and selfish.

We have forgotten how to be nice and caring to each other.

Just Michael apparently, the nicest man in the world, pure love personified, wouldn't even harm a bug, but yet left a wave of destruction in his path.

But that's everyone elses fault, because "Michael didn't have a childhood" and "Michael was used by everyone" and "Michael was abused".

It's no wonder he had a Messiah complex considering his supporters deify him.

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 17:34

kkloo · 20/05/2026 17:31

Just Michael apparently, the nicest man in the world, pure love personified, wouldn't even harm a bug, but yet left a wave of destruction in his path.

But that's everyone elses fault, because "Michael didn't have a childhood" and "Michael was used by everyone" and "Michael was abused".

It's no wonder he had a Messiah complex considering his supporters deify him.

I was watching an interview with his Irish doctor.

When michael was in ireland, he heard about children who were burns victims.

Michael said he wanted to go and visit them. The irish doctor said 'i dont think its a good idea if you go. After the child molestation trial".

He said michael looked at him and said " would you say thst to jesus"

I can see he felt it was sad that he couldnt go to help them without causing controversy. Maybe thats what he meant

Hubhubba26 · 20/05/2026 17:36

If anyone has any evidence re animal torture by MJ I'm more than happy to see it. Well not happy but you get the drift. .

kkloo · 20/05/2026 17:36

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 17:34

I was watching an interview with his Irish doctor.

When michael was in ireland, he heard about children who were burns victims.

Michael said he wanted to go and visit them. The irish doctor said 'i dont think its a good idea if you go. After the child molestation trial".

He said michael looked at him and said " would you say thst to jesus"

I can see he felt it was sad that he couldnt go to help them without causing controversy. Maybe thats what he meant

He had a Messiah complex, he also said he was knew he was healing Gavin.
But again a complete wave of destruction left in his path.

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