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Do you believe the Michael Jackson allegations part 2

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AutumnLover1990 · 18/05/2026 15:54

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kkloo · 20/05/2026 12:50

Hubhubba26 · 20/05/2026 11:51

😆Of course it does. Locked away infers secrecy therefore more guilt.

Of course the key considerations should be:

how items were obtained
how they were used
corroborating testimony or evidence

Ok well they were locked away....so therefore more guilt.

The testimony from the officer is here.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11Mh66RnzUD6OS6jVtinmkCTeSYJLG1Pd/view

04-29-05_FINAL__Rose_Smith-LAPD-93_Koons___Motions_re_Drew_.txt.pdf

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11Mh66RnzUD6OS6jVtinmkCTeSYJLG1Pd/view

MyTrivia · 20/05/2026 12:51

TheJoySpreader · 20/05/2026 12:08

I do think one thing we can all agree on is that, the level of fame we are talking about is not healthy for any human being, it’s just not normal and I wouldn’t want any part of a hugely famous person’s life

That kind of distorted life in itself is a huge prison and I can’t Imagine any person experiencing it managing to stay grounded within that kind of lifestyle

Always hunted by the media and having his appearance and his odd habits judged and torn apart but at the same time able to indulge in any coping mechanisms due to massive wealth and influence

It seems like a lot of us on here have had some very difficult experiences in life as most people do at times, but I don’t think we can ever comprehend how he lived and what it felt like being him

Some people have alleged that he was the one leaking information to the press about his weird habits.

Hubhubba26 · 20/05/2026 12:52

@Ninapertree invited by cruel tabloid coverage. Who back in the eighties had a lot more influence.

MyTrivia · 20/05/2026 12:54

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 12:24

What I find annoying is that since the movie, there are loads of people online saying "oh michael was an angel, he was a starseed , he was the best man ever, trying to help the world. Sent to help humanity".

I remember when michael was alive. He was thought of a lot differently. People constantly called him crazy and wacko. He wasnt well liked

Well his daughter has said that the movie is quite far from the truth. Of course, she was on the receiving end of aggression from MJ fans who didn’t want to hear this.

Hubhubba26 · 20/05/2026 12:59

@kkloo interesting. What do you interpret from the inscription written by MJ?

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 13:22

I think he might have done some form of abuse. I cant know for sure. We can never know.

As we all know now, the hollywood industry and music industry is full of child abuse. How do they feel powerful, by committing crimes and hurting others.

MyTrivia · 20/05/2026 13:23

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 13:22

I think he might have done some form of abuse. I cant know for sure. We can never know.

As we all know now, the hollywood industry and music industry is full of child abuse. How do they feel powerful, by committing crimes and hurting others.

Exactly - they just all have different targets.

kkloo · 20/05/2026 13:25

Hubhubba26 · 20/05/2026 12:59

@kkloo interesting. What do you interpret from the inscription written by MJ?

I think he most likely wrote it as a cover story for if someone found it.

And if not it is in line with what those 'boy lover' pedophile types think and say about children anyway, about how they're so beautiful and innocent and magical (while also wanting sexual relationships with them).

The World According to NAMBLA: Accounting for Deviance -
https://scholarworks.wmich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=1885&context=jssw

Look tenderly on little boys
Their softness as fleeting as a flower,
The cheeks like petals such a little hour,
The deepest dimple theirs so transiently . . .
Look tenderly on little boys.

That was a poem written in a NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association) bulletin. If MJ wrote that people would think it was so lovely that he spoke like that about little boys.

People think this obsession with children and 'love' for them is unique, it's not, it's very common among a certain type of pedophile.

fundamentallyauthentic · 20/05/2026 13:30

As I said on the other thread, it really is surprising that, if he was looking at those books for sexual gratification, that no nefarious activity pertaining to his possible paedophilia was found in his computer.

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 13:34

fundamentallyauthentic · 20/05/2026 13:30

As I said on the other thread, it really is surprising that, if he was looking at those books for sexual gratification, that no nefarious activity pertaining to his possible paedophilia was found in his computer.

He was stupid but not that stupid

MyTrivia · 20/05/2026 13:34

fundamentallyauthentic · 20/05/2026 13:30

As I said on the other thread, it really is surprising that, if he was looking at those books for sexual gratification, that no nefarious activity pertaining to his possible paedophilia was found in his computer.

No it’s not at all surprising because stuff on a computer can’t be explained away. He’d have been put away. It would be a smoking gun.

And since he had access to any number of good looking boys that were exactly his type, he arguably didn’t feel that doing such a thing would be worth the risk.

fundamentallyauthentic · 20/05/2026 13:39

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 13:34

He was stupid but not that stupid

Stupid enough to keep those books, though? That stupid? This highly astute businessman?

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 13:41

fundamentallyauthentic · 20/05/2026 13:39

Stupid enough to keep those books, though? That stupid? This highly astute businessman?

Yeah he was definitely extremely stupid at times.

Maybe stupid is not the right word. I think tha the thought he was invincible at times. That he could get away with doing whatever he wanted.

The books,
The sleepovers,
Bringing children to stay in his hotel room on tours.

I have read where serial killera said that they felt like this "they start to feel untouchable and above the law"

kkloo · 20/05/2026 13:43

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 13:41

Yeah he was definitely extremely stupid at times.

Maybe stupid is not the right word. I think tha the thought he was invincible at times. That he could get away with doing whatever he wanted.

The books,
The sleepovers,
Bringing children to stay in his hotel room on tours.

I have read where serial killera said that they felt like this "they start to feel untouchable and above the law"

Brazen!

fundamentallyauthentic · 20/05/2026 13:45

But if he thought he was so invincible / brazen he would be looking at images on his computer. But he didn’t.

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 13:49

fundamentallyauthentic · 20/05/2026 13:45

But if he thought he was so invincible / brazen he would be looking at images on his computer. But he didn’t.

No because that is too easy to trace.

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 13:49

I think in the future we will all think that we wasted too much time, trying to decide if michael jackson is a paedophile or not.

fundamentallyauthentic · 20/05/2026 13:53

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 13:49

No because that is too easy to trace.

Like those locked away books?

MyTrivia · 20/05/2026 13:54

fundamentallyauthentic · 20/05/2026 13:39

Stupid enough to keep those books, though? That stupid? This highly astute businessman?

Since the books are not illegal he felt he could explain them. They aren’t a smoking gun even though there is only one reason a man would have books written by a pedophile for other pedophiles.

when I was looking at information around what was found in his house, there apparently was also photos of animal torture and some very disturbing drawings that he’d done. I think he was a disturbed individual.

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 13:55

fundamentallyauthentic · 20/05/2026 13:53

Like those locked away books?

They were legal.

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 13:55

MyTrivia · 20/05/2026 13:54

Since the books are not illegal he felt he could explain them. They aren’t a smoking gun even though there is only one reason a man would have books written by a pedophile for other pedophiles.

when I was looking at information around what was found in his house, there apparently was also photos of animal torture and some very disturbing drawings that he’d done. I think he was a disturbed individual.

Do you have a link to the drawings and animal stuff please?

MyTrivia · 20/05/2026 13:56

He might also have been one of those pedophiles who would try to justify it and call himself a ‘minor attracted person’. He told the abuse victims that nobody would understand the sexual stuff they were doing because the whole world was ignorant.

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 13:56

MyTrivia · 20/05/2026 13:54

Since the books are not illegal he felt he could explain them. They aren’t a smoking gun even though there is only one reason a man would have books written by a pedophile for other pedophiles.

when I was looking at information around what was found in his house, there apparently was also photos of animal torture and some very disturbing drawings that he’d done. I think he was a disturbed individual.

I mean, who isn't disturbed at this stage. I feel like the majority of human beings that I have met are abusive in some way.

kkloo · 20/05/2026 13:56

fundamentallyauthentic · 20/05/2026 13:45

But if he thought he was so invincible / brazen he would be looking at images on his computer. But he didn’t.

Not necessarily. I wonder if the type of child porn he would have been interested in was even available, I believe those boy lover type pedophiles look down on the other kind of pedophiles and don't see themselves as the same, they say they want mutually consensual relationships with little boys and that it's out of love and mutually beneficial and that it's ageism and society that are the problem.

fundamentallyauthentic · 20/05/2026 14:01

kkloo · 20/05/2026 13:56

Not necessarily. I wonder if the type of child porn he would have been interested in was even available, I believe those boy lover type pedophiles look down on the other kind of pedophiles and don't see themselves as the same, they say they want mutually consensual relationships with little boys and that it's out of love and mutually beneficial and that it's ageism and society that are the problem.

I’ve no idea what exactly he was alleged to be into but would guess that if he wanted to see images of naked images of boys (legal or not) he would have had the opportunity to see these, online. The internet was way past its infancy stage by the early to mid 00’s.