Do you believe the Michael Jackson allegations part 2

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Maybe he was.

I know she’s a massive fan, she says this in the documentary. But she seems very credible.

The conversation sounds incredibly unbelievable and completely ridiculous, she said that when living with Michael Jackson was released that it reignited discussion about whether MJ was a child molester, so here's the scene, they're all at college with Jordan Chandler and in a program meeting and there was a discussion about whether or not MJ was a child molester, with Jordan Chandler present, and she chimed in with her belief that MJ wasn't a molester and that then Jordan Chandler chimed in and said that he too didn't think MJ was capable of the things he was being accused of.

And you think that that is believable and credible? 🙉

It would be like if Virginia Giuffre was at university and they all start to casually discuss whether they thought Epstein was an abuser, with Virginia present, with no care and consideration for the fact she was there, knowing full well that she was one of the most prominent victims. That would be a completely abnormal thing to do. Completely bizarre. And then to top it off Virginia then agreed that no Epstein would never do that.

@fundamentallyauthentic
The more I think about it it's probably one of the least believable stories I've ever heard in my life, so many plot holes, as I said no one would be having that discussion knowing Jordan Chandler was there, she had also said earlier in the documentary that she never asked Jordan about it because even though she believed MJ was innocent if there was even one shred of doubt she didn't want to risk traumatising someone who was potentially a victim, but then she said she happily chimed in in a group discussion when Jordan was there and said 'no I don't think he's a molester' 🤔🤔🤔

and then to top it off then Jordan Chandler chimes in with 'no I don't think he's capable of doing stuff like that', would he not have added a preamble and maybe addressed the elephant in the room and said 'I know I accused him in the past but it didn't happen', no, apparently just acts like that didn't happen and chimed in himself saying he didn't think he was a molester.

There are multiple accusers. What do you think is the best evidence of CSA? It sounds like you’ve been influenced by the film, which Paris Jackson has said is a white wash of who her father was. And she received hate for it.

Some of the jurors in the case believed that MJ was guilty but apparently one of them felt voting guilty would result in a hung jury and he just wanted to go home(!)

His lawyer did a great job of muddying the waters and taking the focus away from where it should have been.

Do you believe that OJ Simpson and Casey Anthony were innocent? And if not, why do you think they were acquitted?

The father of Lisa Maries kids once told her to 'Get my son off that guys fucking lap' after seeing a picture of them in the press.

Imagine your ex partner marrying Michael Jackson and having the kids around him 😳
I'm surprised he didn't go for full custody.

I just read that Lisa Marie had also been molested herself by one of Priscillas boyfriends. I didn't know that.

@MyTrivia like I said it's my opinion, also strange that Jordan legally emancipated from his parents at 14.

I don't know much about OJ as didn't follow the trial.

The OJ trial is worth watching. If that was tried now he would be found guilty. He beat his wife and everyone knew it, phone calls with screams just hideous and then she found the courage to leave him and as its now well known the most dangerous time for a women is right after leaving an abusive partner and killed them both. Literally no other suspects and he wasnt found guilty. But he was a huge star at the time.....

Also he was not found guilty in the criminal trial but then in a further civil lawsuit he was found responsible. Later went to prison for armed robbery.

It was a bit of its time. There is this awful time where she ran out the bushes in the night battered screaming he is going to kill me and they just let him drive off.

I saw a theory which said that this might have been a condition of his settlement because if he wasn't emancipated he wouldn't be bound by the confidentially agreement as he was under 18.

Also Jordan and Evan separately filed a complaint against Michael Jackson in for breach of contract, and Jordan was 18 at the time.

@Mum2boys01 that's sounds harrowing, poor woman.

I'm just watching the Rachel Nickell series on Netflix, (some of it is fictionalised), so sad, I was very young when it happened so again don't know much about it.

Round and round we go

Im going to start a very basic list

Male super rich megastar

Lies about plastic surgery while looking like a scream mask

Is a 'virgin' until married mid 30s

Likes little boys with a specific age and look

These boys sleep in his bed

Their fingerprints are found on pornography found in his bedroom

He has books of naked boys showing genitals made by pedophiles for pedophiles

The entrance to his bedroom is heavily alarmed

When his preferred boy gets older another looking the same replaces him

Thats the start of my basic list on him, anyone who can add please do so!

Even though theres no point, those posters will never accept reality , I think you missed out the most important item on the list - several boys have accused him of abuse with incredibly similar details. I mean, when its viewed as a whole, its damning evidence. Not for some though. So bizarre

Jordan Chandlers parents could be the worst ever. WTF does that have to do with whether or not Jackson was a pedophile?

These sorts of arguments are nothing more than whattaboutery and ignore MJ’s disgusting behaviour.

And if you’re unfamiliar with the OJ case I suggest you look into it because it’s another story of how a man used his clout and wealth to get away with a crime.

All this they are after money

Isn't that the case with a lot of things?

Car accidents, Andy Mountbatten, Amber Heard, medical accidents, accidents at work yadayada

Money becomes representative of "sorry" as sometimes its the only sorry that can be had

So if they get money for being abused it's at least recognition that they were truthful so im behind them!

I don’t think there is any way certain followers of Jackson will ever see anything different than what they want to see. It’s infuriating that this is the case despite what seems overwhelmingly abhorrent behaviour and the fact we know MJ is a pathological liar about many things. It seems that sleeping with young boys is fine and of no consequence if you are a superstar. I think one day the truth will come out. Sooner rather than later I hope.

and wrote a book entitled 'if I DID IT' (the 'if in tiny font)

It's tricky because I can see the inaccuracies in most points here. But maybe I need to double check too. One thing that's certain is that Paris speaks highly of her father in her very recent interview with Jack Osbourne. Reading between the lines her issue seems to with the people in charge of the estate who are behind the movie. Plus it wasn't a great movie, so can completely understand why her and Janet stepped away.

I did not say Paris didn’t love her father. I said that she considers the film about him to be entirely fictional. She has said this on her own Instagram and also that because it’s not what some fans want to hear, she gets hate for it.

I didn't say that's what you said. Anyway, well it's silly she gets hate from some for her viewpoint. She clearly has good intentions

I’ve no idea what you’re on about.

Jordan Chandler accurately describing the marks on Jackson’s penis… how could he do that if he hasn’t seen his penis.

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could this be the most infuriating thread of all time? 😂