Do you believe the Michael Jackson allegations part 2

[AutumnLover1990]

New thread 😀

You’re right it is - I’ve just checked.

I assume it’s because he wasn’t the one making the allegations and Jordan Chandler was paid off (that photo was from the 1993 raid).

But is it illegal to have a naked photo of a minor?

Apparently at the time (or maybe still now) naked photos of children aren't illegal unless they are in sexual poses or something like that. And he wasn't making allegations.

Does anyone else get worried that writing on these threads could trigger a police alert?

I was at my workplace the other day and i realised i had connected accidentally to the work wifi, while typing on a michael jackson thread on mumsnet

Our work internet as safeguarding in place and is aimed to alert someone if someone types in something dodgy.

I realised i had been typing in the words 'naked boys" "child abuse" while on the michael jackson thread. Someone posted a link to the book that michael had. No way should anyone click on that. I think we need to be very careful what we type in, or look at

I haven’t got time sufficient to read the whole thread or previous ones on the issue but yes yes yes @SignoraDeiGatti I agree with you.
Threads like this must be so disappointing to read for anyone who’s experienced CSA. Why are so many so keen to view MJ as innocent despite such overwhelming evidence to the contrary? I have some sympathy for MJ because clearly some aspects of his upbringing were problematic but that’s really no excuse for doing what he did.

@Ninapertree
Personally no.

These photos are so creepy.

Internet systems are advanced these days and get notifications about phrases and searches.

Definitely don't click on links about books that he had

I posted the link. I wouldn't have posted a link to anything in the book unless it was censored though.

A harmless police report? I think you’re mistaken. I will be keen to see this so please PM me.

In the acres I’ve read about Jackson not once have I read anything about the DVD’s and the stuff found on his device.

Totally agree - a lot of people will do bad things given the opportunity but true pedophiles are in love with children and want a relationship. I don’t think he was like Jimmy Saville or other perpetrators in that sense but ultimately he was a pedophile - it was completely inappropriate, damaging and I do believe sexual. The only reason it is debated to this degree is the fandom that MJ built - no one else would get this level of defending, reasonable doubt etc

@Ninapertree yes. Be really mindful what you search for whatever network you are using, especially at work, when you should be working

They’re horrific, they really are. not no doubt you will have certain posters screaming ‘fake’

@MyTrivia is that James Safechuck 2nd from right ?

It looks more like Jonathan Spence.

I don’t know what he looked like, this is James , bless him.

i do not want to google search Jonathan Spence young !

Looking at other photos online that doesnt look like jonathan spence.

I Have just searched JS - He is similar in looks, MJ really did have a type that is for sure.

Not sure if that picture is too small but can't make it bigger.

@kkloo they are so similar looking, could be brothers easily.

Sorry if it's been posted but I saw earlier that there's a Netflix documentary coming soon.

Hadn't heard anything about this.

Ah i dunno. Im sick of thinking about whether he was a paedophile or not. Either he was, and he will have to face what he did. Or he didnt.

Im going to research other things now. Good luck

Ah yes, I've just found the court document. There's more on it than the list you posted.

It does include sadomasochistic items, including extreme sadomasochism and body mutilation and photos of children morphed onto adult bodies, no mention of animals but then it's possible that they didn't try to submit that to the court because it wasn't relevant, or perhaps that part was not true.

I think MJ really benefited from his case being in the 00s, things just weren't documented the way they are now online, I remember trying to read up a bit about Harold Shipman in the past and it was a real struggle to find a lot of the info I was looking for.