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Labour isn't working - Thread 32

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Nuthatch26 · 11/05/2026 11:06

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙* *

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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SapphireCasino · 15/05/2026 12:32

@Nonnaleone thank you

I'd forgotten about that

I know the scheme has helped in other countries, but I would be surprised if it makes a difference in the UK. I think the type of person who is dropping litter won't care about getting their deposit back.

tbh we are lucky in my area because the council always fight against fast food establishments so the numbers could be a lot worse

One other thing that worries me about Reform is they might reverse that.

But yeah, the massive commercial rubbish dumps, they are a huge worry and they are getting worse as they are such a target for the increasing corrupt activity in this country. Lots of money to be made.

Again, all adding up to that sense that no one has actually run the country for ages. In some ways I do feel bad for Labour because I think they are bearing the brunt of people actually realising that.

But then they also don't seem to have any ideas about how to fix it, or even any interest in fixing the things that affect people's daily lives.

I don't have much experience of other countries, and certainly no recent experience. My ex ex-boyfriend used to moan about the state of this country - he's got a lot of experience of other countries - I thought he was being silly, especially because he was a child technically when he lived in some of those countries - but now I'm starting to realise that he's possibly right.

The fact that we are horrendously overpopulated isn't helping but that's something I've been talking about for 30 years and people are just really upset when you mention it.

justasking111 · 15/05/2026 12:57

Upstartled · 15/05/2026 10:15

Morning. It has been a huge week. I think I have politics fatigue kicking in. Maybe that's the plan, just spin us all around so much that we are exhausted and apathetic?

Politics and hantavirus just to scare us. Total silence on Iran and the Straits of Harmuz. We're being played.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 15/05/2026 13:13

it would have been a very easy win for Labour led councils to clean up the bloody rubbish everywhere. Siddiq Khan should have done in, instead of moaning about Starmer.

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justasking111 · 15/05/2026 13:25

If thew NHS won't treat you, won't refer you, you'll die. That's a very slow way to reduce the population though.

I've watched the Birmingham garbage issues it's not the retirees who are dumping their trash

. I've seen this when they arrive as day trippers to our tourist area, light up a BBQ cook their food, drink their soft drinks, then bugger off leaving bags of rubbish and a still hot BBQ burning.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 15/05/2026 13:59

justasking111 · 15/05/2026 13:25

If thew NHS won't treat you, won't refer you, you'll die. That's a very slow way to reduce the population though.

I've watched the Birmingham garbage issues it's not the retirees who are dumping their trash

. I've seen this when they arrive as day trippers to our tourist area, light up a BBQ cook their food, drink their soft drinks, then bugger off leaving bags of rubbish and a still hot BBQ burning.

The disposable BBQs are the worst.

Dangerous for pets, wildlife and children and a fire hazard.

Anyone who bans them has my vote.

SapphireCasino · 15/05/2026 16:21

This came up in conversation with someone I work with

She was saying how shocked she was to see signs in London saying "take your litter with you" - obviously I'm not going to be pushy with someone I work with, but I did ask exactly where it was and she just looked vague and said she can't remember

Anyway, a couple of people who are older than she is said that that used to be pretty normal. It's not my imagination is it? It did used to be normal.

She was annoyed because there were no little bins, she was an annoyed because the sign was up, I don't know how hard it is to just put your litter in a bag and take it home with you.

When those signs were up, we weren't living in this society where a carry around coffee is practically compulsory and people eat every five minutes - I'm quite big as it is goodness knows how big I would be if I was doing that too - so I admit it bugs me just in terms of the culture. I don't like people eating on trains. I appreciate on a longer journey you might need to, but I would actually like to see a no food rule across London transport.

Anyway, I digress. Listening to her felt like another example of the kind of goodwill that was squandered during lockdown. I don't think the public will take that well to any kind of "keep Britain tidy"campaign now.

it is a totally separate issue to the dumping of commercial waste of course. But talk of the deposit return scheme made me think of it. Disposable barbecues should definitely be banned, yes.

I don't know how other countries manage this. I haven't got much experience of anywhere except the US. People often come back from Scandinavian countries and tell me how lovely and clean it is. I wonder why that is. Though I see Sweden is being quite sensible with generating electricity from incinerating waste. That's just from my quick look online earlier.

justasking111 · 15/05/2026 17:56

I can't fathom if you can take heavy bags filled with food to a beach, up a mountain when you visit our area. Why can't you take the much lighter detritus home. If you have to BBQ on the beach with those tin containers, there's bloody water in front of you so pour it on the bloody charcoal.

SpaceRaccoon · 15/05/2026 18:16

NoWordForFluffy · 15/05/2026 10:40

Well, I suppose there has to be one thing that's pleasant about him! 🤷‍♀️

I had a sex dream about him once, it was during covid though so everything was a bit strange.

NoWordForFluffy · 15/05/2026 18:18

SpaceRaccoon · 15/05/2026 18:16

I had a sex dream about him once, it was during covid though so everything was a bit strange.

Oh dear. Do you need any support for this?

I'm imaging it was some sort of pent up...something, which caused it. 😬🤣

NoWordForFluffy · 15/05/2026 18:19

justasking111 · 15/05/2026 17:56

I can't fathom if you can take heavy bags filled with food to a beach, up a mountain when you visit our area. Why can't you take the much lighter detritus home. If you have to BBQ on the beach with those tin containers, there's bloody water in front of you so pour it on the bloody charcoal.

Formby beach is left in a disgusting way after it's been busy. There have been fires on the dunes from discarded BBQs as well. Fucking idiots.

SpaceRaccoon · 15/05/2026 18:20

NoWordForFluffy · 15/05/2026 18:18

Oh dear. Do you need any support for this?

I'm imaging it was some sort of pent up...something, which caused it. 😬🤣

I'd actually forgotten about it, and him, until you triggered me 😂

NoWordForFluffy · 15/05/2026 18:20

SpaceRaccoon · 15/05/2026 18:20

I'd actually forgotten about it, and him, until you triggered me 😂

Well, it wasn't me who mentioned him first! But I do apologise for reigniting the memory. 🤣🤣

justasking111 · 15/05/2026 18:26

NoWordForFluffy · 15/05/2026 18:19

Formby beach is left in a disgusting way after it's been busy. There have been fires on the dunes from discarded BBQs as well. Fucking idiots.

We've had some biggish fires. Mostly on the mountains. The fear is for the forests and our red squirrels in one area though. As for human waste in our sand dunes, words fail me.

SapphireCasino · 15/05/2026 20:47

SpaceRaccoon · 15/05/2026 18:16

I had a sex dream about him once, it was during covid though so everything was a bit strange.

Oh.My.God

I nearly told the underwear poster to see a doctor - this might require a Friday night A&E visit... but as it was years ago, I think it's too late 😂😂

SpaceRaccoon · 15/05/2026 21:38

SapphireCasino · 15/05/2026 20:47

Oh.My.God

I nearly told the underwear poster to see a doctor - this might require a Friday night A&E visit... but as it was years ago, I think it's too late 😂😂

It wasn't even a bad dream.... which made the waking shame all the worse.

SapphireCasino · 15/05/2026 21:54

Oh @SpaceRaccoon

NGL i'm disappointed

Have you been on the sauce? Are you taking the Mick out of us?! 😂

SpaceRaccoon · 15/05/2026 22:57

SapphireCasino · 15/05/2026 21:54

Oh @SpaceRaccoon

NGL i'm disappointed

Have you been on the sauce? Are you taking the Mick out of us?! 😂

No I don't even drink ha ha. Honestly I was just for some reason seeing a lot of his X posts at the time even though I didn't follow him - bastard algorithm giving me unsuitable dreams. At least it wasn't Elon I guess.

justasking111 · 16/05/2026 19:20

Where are you all?

NoWordForFluffy · 16/05/2026 19:32

On my sofa! 😁 Bit quiet today, isn't it? Busy on other threads, fighting bot / staff member accusations!

SapphireCasino · 16/05/2026 19:32

justasking111 · 16/05/2026 19:20

Where are you all?

@justasking111 hello!
Are you back to full fitness now? I hope so.

I'm a bit confused about time at the moment... it doesn't feel like May. But here we are.

I suspect everyone's gone into hiding because of the graphic imagery suggested by two posters....

justasking111 · 16/05/2026 19:38

NoWordForFluffy · 16/05/2026 19:32

On my sofa! 😁 Bit quiet today, isn't it? Busy on other threads, fighting bot / staff member accusations!

Ah the bots. We have been inundated to be honest. I've been counting three a day on average. I've taken to just lurking and dismissing a lot of threads. Bots post once and vanish. It's tiresome. I've only a couple of threads I follow daily. Otherwise it's like groundhog day here at the moment.

justasking111 · 16/05/2026 19:40

SapphireCasino · 16/05/2026 19:32

@justasking111 hello!
Are you back to full fitness now? I hope so.

I'm a bit confused about time at the moment... it doesn't feel like May. But here we are.

I suspect everyone's gone into hiding because of the graphic imagery suggested by two posters....

Ah. I was hoping for some feedback on the London event. Our Welsh media said a few thousand people attended. Not sure if that's accurate.

justasking111 · 16/05/2026 19:44

I'm not fully fit @SapphireCasino but after eight weeks progressed from crutches to sticks, then one stick. Now I do without indoors. It's not an elegant walk DH says that I have a bit of a sailors roll. Physio gave me more exercises yesterday because my glutes etc are tight. I still can't put socks on these exercises will stretch those muscles back out.

Nuthatch26 · 16/05/2026 19:49

Evening 😁
Sorry @justasking111 I decided I needed a break from politics and MN today. Glad to hear your mobility is improving.
I"ve avoided the news today. Had a lovely day mooching round the shops with my DDs. Is mooch a northern term? Not sure. 🤔
Just got back from a very wet dog walk, feel better for it despite the weather.

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justasking111 · 16/05/2026 20:02

We need sunny days. We need vitamin D. DH normally lives in shorts from May to October. He's in thermals again 🤬

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