Do you believe the Michael Jackson allegations?

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For me it’s undeniable and the evidence is overwhelming, but I’m shocked by the amount of people who don’t.

There's absolutely nothing on that video to say he was buying a ring for a child either!! Where on earth did that come from? More made up BS 🤦‍♂️🙄

Not at all. Michael was very handsome.

@MyTrivia busted !!!!

I wondering how none of the gifts sent to him by fans weren’t vetted, I mean how did they know an addressed package was from a fan and not an enemy, ? Surely the ‘fan gift unwrapping Lackey’ would gave tossed the book?

Tbf, he was very handsome before he ruined his face. And that’s why it’s inconceivable to me that he wouldn’t have had scores of girlfriends (or boyfriends if he was gay). When you add that to his talent and charisma.

But, no - he spent all of his time with male children. He went on tours with them ffs. twisted.

agree when he was 20 or so, a very good looking young man.

Before he ruined his face.

I know it relates to the book. But it could be relating to the cover, which is s an innocent photo of boys in swim trunks jumping into a swimming pool and laughing. You want the inscription to be about the photo's inside that you describe, but we'll never know. I also note his fingerprints weren't found in the book.

It wasn’t even just one book though.

No, you and others want it to be about the cover. But that's extremely unlikely, he had this book kept in a locked filing cabinet.

I don't want it to be about the pictures in the book...I definitely don't believe he thought the book was about the 'spirit of boyhood', I think the inscription was a cover story for if the book was found, where he would say he saw the book as innocent, his supporters seemed to go one better though and make out the inscription is just about the cover.

I can't find anything to say there was no fingerprints found in the book, do you have a source?

However if the cover was so amazingly beautiful and wonderful to him that he inscribed the book based on the cover photo and then decided to keep this special book locked away then he would have looked through the book to see what other amazing photos were in the book, it just makes no sense whatsoever to inscribe it based off a cover that he was so wowed by and then not look in it.

And then the other side of it is that he genuinely does think that that's the spirit of boyhood then how can people be so sure that he did nothing wrong to those boys, believing that it was perfectly fine and innocent and what boyhood is all about?

I mean, whatever inscription he made, that book was written by a convicted pedophile.

Would you buy a book of nude children that was written by a pedophile?

He didn’t buy it! It was sent to him by a fan

No, and if I somehow ended up with a book that had a cover photo that enthralled me I wouldn't just not flick through the book, and inscribe it based off the cover picture and then lock it up in a filing cabinet.

We're talking about the other book.

And the one from the fan was weird too, if the court sketches are right then the name "Rhonda" was written in quotation marks like it was a pseudonym.

You honestly believe this?

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‘He didn’t buy it! It was sent to him by a fan’

a previous post covers this, besides, how does that change things? I’m sure his fans sent him all kinds of unwanted items that ended up in the trash.

@MyTrivia yes they honestly believe it. If there existed film of MJ torturing puppies and kittens they’d say it was fake or a temporary lack of judgement ‘caught up in the moment’ you know like dangling a baby from 20 stories up ? Or he was just ‘having fun and playing with the pup’ it’s futile to attempt any rational discussion I’m afraid 🤷🏻‍♀️ I’ve heard about these ‘super fans’ but this thread has been a revelation.

How would he know it was written by a pedophile? Do you do an in depth background check on every author whose book you buy?

@kkloo I went down a rabbit hole on Reddit and Medium; there’s no official source about the no fingerprints thing. Your theory about the inscription acting as a deliberate cover for him in case it was found is as credible as the theory of the inscription only referring to the cover, which is wholly innocuous. We’re never going to know one way or another.

It's far more credible that he'd inscribe it as a cover story, rather than inscribing it because he loved the cover so much, and then never even flicking through the rest of the book to become aware of the rest of the contents which just happened to be photos such as a naked boy with his legs spread and his genitals exposed, and just locking it safely away because he loved the cover so much.

You can't really believe this stuff, and you can't expect anyone here to believe that you really think that also.

@kkloo I’m not saying he never flicked through the book, I just said I can’t give you a source about there being no fingerprints.

I believe this is an extremely complex case with there being one constant and defining feature - there being very little in the way of evidence against Jackson. What all of us actually know about any of this is not much.

No, there aren't.

Yes there are 🙄. If you’re such a big fan maybe you should research the obvious things.

I agree. It’s absolutely pathetic. And these people are silencing victims because they want to continue to enjoy someone’s music.

I have watched ‘Leaving Neverland’ again. Jimmy Safechuck’s mother says that Michael had given her a very low interest loan so that they could buy a bigger house and that after the Jordan Chandler allegations he phoned her and said forget the loan - you can have the house as a gift.

I think it’s your research skills that need sharpening. My favourite blunder of yours was that Jackson had no adult friends, something that an adult with even a basic awareness of popular culture and celebrity in the 90s and 00s would know. There are many more howlers on this thread.

Do you have children? If you did I don’t think you’d be so determined to ignore all of the evidence that this man was a child predator.