Do you believe the Michael Jackson allegations?

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For me it’s undeniable and the evidence is overwhelming, but I’m shocked by the amount of people who don’t.

I think it's plain to see now that it was Michael who was taken advantage of all these years 😞

There's no reports of him ever sleepwalking before from what I've seen, but plenty of reports of him being a pervert.

Lots of lies slowly becoming apparent. Please be advised people are being paid for their stories and then there's this....

Have you ever lied in your life? Humans lie but it doesn’t mean that everything they say is false. Imagine if you needed to report a SA at work and your line manager said ‘oh you told a lie about X in such a time so we don’t believe you’

I wish he wasn’t a pedophile but I’ve had to accept that he likely is like a lot of people.

Well it shows the type of character they are and that they are extremely motivated by money. They will say and do anything for the 💲

They wouldn’t have been privy to his day to day life. The only people that spent intimate time with him were children. His talent and charisma is such that everyone wants to believe he’s innocent. And he can seem very disarming and likeable. I’m not surprised they supported him.

Cory Feldman did say that he could no longer support Michael Jackson after leaving Neverland though …

This tape was played during the televised trial of Dr Conrad Murray. Everyone witnessed a judge who was disgusted by his actions, recording Michael at his most vulnerable. The media was there. But just like the Chandler tape, those tapes are not "relevant" because they are going against the guilty narrative

Conrad Murray definitely thought MJ was a pedophile, maybe MJ had previously said more damning stuff while in that state and that's why he recorded him the next time.

@kkloo given how he comes across in this recording, it's unlikely. He's talking about helping depressed children and building better children's hospitals whilst heavily sedated and unaware of being recorded. Have you actually listened to it?

Yes I've heard it several times.

@kkloo Sure.

That's a bit of a reach 😕 🤦‍♂️

@Hubhubba26 The recording just isn't proving what you think it's proving.

Indeed. All of it.

I've been reading that that Casio family auctioned off MJ's underwear? 😯 Is that right? Shocking 😯

How so?
He did think he was a pedophile.

What about all the 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰🫰🫰🫰🫰🫰 that you're always saying everyone is so motivated by?

Its interesting that thats "a reach" and yet reasons excuses to explain sleeping with young boys are meant to be plausible....

Eg
He grew up in a tiny house and slept with siblings growing up...
It was all he knew...
He was so innocent and childlike so he identified with kids...
He was "stuck" at age 10 ...
Or somehow they were exploiting him...
Etc etc

@kkloo not true in some interviews he defends him. In some he says he doesn't want to comment. You're just making things up. Bizarre.

@AutumnLover1990 I don't know. It wouldn't be surprising 😐

At best he's trying to say he can't help it because of his childhood but he absolutely thinks he's a pedophile.

Linking to a reddit thread with a clip because I don't know how to get the video from the thread. Not for you necessarily but for anyone who wants to listen.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LeavingNeverlandHBO/comments/12plvui/2013_conrad_murrays_statements_michael_had_a_dark/

@kkloo thanks. However Im going to stick with the more rationally presented court information over the sensationalised presentation from the tabloid style TV programme

Yes, well I expected that and as I said it's for anyone who wants to listen.

It's clear he thought he was a pedophile.

Anyone who was in a position to know MJ and say that they thought Michael Jackson’s behaviour was concerning or raised red flags is argued against and said to be a liar.

The problem is that when so many people say one thing it’s hard to keep on believing that they are innocent.

Most people don’t seem to have a problem believing that Andrew MW was guilty because he’s a nasty, pompous piece of work with no talents.

Don’t be so harsh—he cuts a ribbon like a real pro.

Oh dear. I did watch that and - what a surprise - there is no suggestion he believed Jackson was a paedophile.

More broadly, the interviewer was a bit shit. I don't know why you bothered posting this, really.