Do you believe the Michael Jackson allegations?

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For me it’s undeniable and the evidence is overwhelming, but I’m shocked by the amount of people who don’t.

Ron Newt on being offered money to say Michael Jackson touch his children

It’s true, he didn’t. Not an expert on these things but not having that kind of material digitally stored would be unusual for a paedophile, I’m guessing.

He didn't just draw a splotchy penis, the drawing is said to match where the specific discoloration marks were on MJs penis.

If the local school principal or boy scout leader was found to have books of naked photos of boys, and people knew he slept in bed with boys and knew he always replaced boys with younger ones and then he had multiple accusers then everyone would think he was a pedo regardless of whether he was convicted or not.

Two of the staff were proven to be as dodgy as hell. Some other staff reported they saw no abuse. Some others said they’d seen him abusing Macauley Culkin, but Culkin has always denied he had been abused (could be in denial).

So it’s really not as simple as your implicit assertion that all the staff were telling the truth.

I didn't say they all were, some may well be opportunists, but the other side of it is that there could be plenty of staff who defended him and said they saw nothing who did in fact see things.

So what’s your opinion about the staff who said they witnessed him abusing Culkin?

It's actually concerning how blinkered some people are and unwilling to accept that he was a paedophile. Exactly how much evidence do they need?

I totally agree that if this were their son's teacher they wouldn't be saying "oh he's just a perfectly harmless adult man that likes having sleepovers with little boys and looking at "art books" of naked children. My best friend's brother's dog thinks he's lovely so that's fine then."

That’s true they probably would and I would too, but then the local school principal/scout leader usually isn’t a world famous billionaire either.
I just think the MJ case can’t be compared to a normal Joe Bloggs scout leader.
As implausible as it seems MJ actually could
be innocent

It’s possible he did. It’s possible MC doesn’t want to open up about it.

That they may have been telling the truth despite Culkin denying it.

Being a famous billionaire does not mean that you are less likely to be a pedophile 🧐

Haven’t the Epstein files taught us all that?

They would need a video showing him doing it. And even then they’d start to say that maybe it was a clone. Lol.

Perhaps. Or that Culkin wasn’t abused, just like Brett Barnes perhaps wasn’t (someone else who denied he had been abused by Jackson). And maybe Sean Lennon.

Sean Lennon denied being abused but his music video for 'bubbles burst' strongly suggests he was. I felt physically sick watching that video.

If you were dating a man and found that he had books like this, would you continue to date him?

Isn’t it such a big coincidence that all the boys he was hanging around with were about the same age - 7-11 or 12. And then the strange pictures are of the same thing.

This is spot on.

In the extraordinarily unlikely case that someone behaved in the same way as Michael Jackson out of naivety they would stop after being accused of sexual abuse the first time.

The reason he didn't stop and instead kept paying victims off is because he was a paedophile who felt compelled to continue abuse children.

Of course it doesn’t. But it does make you more vulnerable to being blackmailed, especially when you’re dead and can’t defend yourself!

So why if he kept being blackmailed did he keep wanting to sleep alone with small boys if he wasn't a paedophile?

Probably not no but it would depend on the circumstances and the books

Have you seen all the images in the books owned by MJ? Seeing as you know they are all of the same thing

This. Andrew Mountbatten is a prime example—he never assaulted teen girls—they were “making up the accusations for cash,”

People have been accusing him long before he died. Would you say the same thing about Jimmy Savile? That the victims were all making it up so they could get a payout?

Also you can’t exactly blackmail the dead.

Agree. People comparing him to the bloke down the road are just being disingenous. It's nowhere near the same dynamic as someone who has millions of fans some of which ask to stay with him (not that he should've agreed to it obviously) as well as millions in the bank.

Well considering none of us have seen the books, how would we know? If they're as bad as you make out I don't know why they'll legal. And understandably we're not about to look them up!