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Do you believe the Michael Jackson allegations?

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fartotheleftside · 06/05/2026 22:13

For me it’s undeniable and the evidence is overwhelming, but I’m shocked by the amount of people who don’t.

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Scarlettjune · 10/05/2026 19:10

MyTrivia · 10/05/2026 19:09

I look at the totality of the evidence rather than wanting to believe someone is innocent because I liked their music and was impressed by their talent.

Who's doing that on here?

As I said, I don't have an opinion on whether he is guilty or innocent

MyTrivia · 10/05/2026 19:12

And let’s be clear. There are unfortunately many pedophiles who seem to work in the entertainment industry. They should all be exposed. I’m not sure why people believe victims when they report abuse about anyone else but Michael Jackson.

everyoldsock · 10/05/2026 19:18

kkloo · 10/05/2026 19:10

Yes I'm aware of what she said when she backtracked. Doesn't mean it's true though.

So you’re saying she lied about that as well? Do you know he has a history of physically assaulting her? Janet is on record for saying she and the rest of the family were worried about her.

kkloo · 10/05/2026 19:24

everyoldsock · 10/05/2026 19:18

So you’re saying she lied about that as well? Do you know he has a history of physically assaulting her? Janet is on record for saying she and the rest of the family were worried about her.

I'm saying that just because she backtracked it doesn't mean that what she said later is true. And perhaps she was coerced into saying it out loud to the media, doesn't mean she didn't think or know that he was a pedophile though. People willingly cover for family all the time.

I 100% believe he is a pedophile so what she said initially is true.

Hubhubba26 · 10/05/2026 19:24

@kkloo the rabbi is not someone to listen to. sponging money off Michaels name by writing sensationalist books about him after his death. Again just one of many.

user2848502016 · 10/05/2026 19:26

Scarlettjune · 10/05/2026 18:13

I think he said he hadnt seen some of them.

Im not sure. Were those books sold in shops at the time? Why were they allowed to be published?

Exactly, I kept hearing they found child porn/hardcore porn in his bedroom and I believed it - but actually they found playboy type magazines and the “art books”

Yeah both are pretty gross, and the books are questionable BUT neither are illegal and neither were enough to convince a jury that MJ was a paedophile

Hubhubba26 · 10/05/2026 19:26

@kkloo she supported him throughout the 2005 court case and could regularly be seen by his side during that period

Hubhubba26 · 10/05/2026 19:29

@user2848502016 I hate to break it to you. The majority of men look at straight porn. It's pretty normal. The child porn. Nonsense. If it were true he'd be serving time.

kkloo · 10/05/2026 19:31

Hubhubba26 · 10/05/2026 19:26

@kkloo she supported him throughout the 2005 court case and could regularly be seen by his side during that period

Yes, I am aware she backtracked and said that in the post when I first mentioned her.

kkloo · 10/05/2026 19:34

Hubhubba26 · 10/05/2026 19:24

@kkloo the rabbi is not someone to listen to. sponging money off Michaels name by writing sensationalist books about him after his death. Again just one of many.

The book was made up of MJs words, along with the Rabbis thoughts on what MJ was saying etc.

I've seen some fans saying the book is great as long as you skip the Rabbis parts but all the disgusting misogny and thinking he'd convert Hitler etc were all Michaels words.

kkloo · 10/05/2026 19:35

Hubhubba26 · 10/05/2026 19:29

@user2848502016 I hate to break it to you. The majority of men look at straight porn. It's pretty normal. The child porn. Nonsense. If it were true he'd be serving time.

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They were 'art books' of naked boys, created by pedophiles and loved by pedophiles.

Hubhubba26 · 10/05/2026 19:35

@kkloo and none taken out of context I'm sure

everyoldsock · 10/05/2026 19:36

Hubhubba26 · 10/05/2026 19:26

@kkloo she supported him throughout the 2005 court case and could regularly be seen by his side during that period

Yes, she was also at the film premiere last month. As far as I know she’s not gone back on her retraction.

user2848502016 · 10/05/2026 19:36

Hubhubba26 · 10/05/2026 19:29

@user2848502016 I hate to break it to you. The majority of men look at straight porn. It's pretty normal. The child porn. Nonsense. If it were true he'd be serving time.

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Yeah if you read my post properly that’s what I’m saying!

kkloo · 10/05/2026 19:38

everyoldsock · 10/05/2026 19:36

Yes, she was also at the film premiere last month. As far as I know she’s not gone back on her retraction.

I didn't say she did.
And if she does go back on the supporters will just come up with some reason why she did anyway.

She's lying, the kids are lying, the maid is lying, the staff are lying, the Rabbi is lying....

user2848502016 · 10/05/2026 19:39

kkloo · 10/05/2026 19:35

They were 'art books' of naked boys, created by pedophiles and loved by pedophiles.

But not classed as porn and not illegal….

I’m not defending him having them I’m just saying it’s inaccurate to say he had child porn and the books aren’t proof he was a paedophile

He might be guilty, there is just a lot of doubt that’s all

AutumnLover1990 · 10/05/2026 19:39

everyoldsock · 10/05/2026 19:36

Yes, she was also at the film premiere last month. As far as I know she’s not gone back on her retraction.

La Toya is also producer of the Michael movie.

Hubhubba26 · 10/05/2026 19:48

@kkloo $$$$$$$

everyoldsock · 10/05/2026 19:54

kkloo · 10/05/2026 19:24

I'm saying that just because she backtracked it doesn't mean that what she said later is true. And perhaps she was coerced into saying it out loud to the media, doesn't mean she didn't think or know that he was a pedophile though. People willingly cover for family all the time.

I 100% believe he is a pedophile so what she said initially is true.

How would she know? She didn’t say she witnessed him abusing boys, and she hasn’t said he confessed to her. Wasn’t it just her opinion?

kkloo · 10/05/2026 19:54

user2848502016 · 10/05/2026 19:39

But not classed as porn and not illegal….

I’m not defending him having them I’m just saying it’s inaccurate to say he had child porn and the books aren’t proof he was a paedophile

He might be guilty, there is just a lot of doubt that’s all

No one would say the same if it were their local primary school principal or boy scout leader.
The evidence would be considered enough to remove doubt if it were any other person but MJ.

Bluehels · 10/05/2026 19:55

Yes

LBFseBrom · 10/05/2026 20:02

Scarlettjune · 10/05/2026 18:55

People also think that the maid made things up for money though.

I believe someone siad that newspapers would offer people money if they said that MJ was a paedophile

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That would not surprise me one bit.

If anyone famous is alleged to be involved in some sort of scandal or crime, people who knew something of them crawl out of the woodwork in droves. Money talks.

kkloo · 10/05/2026 20:04

LBFseBrom · 10/05/2026 20:02

That would not surprise me one bit.

If anyone famous is alleged to be involved in some sort of scandal or crime, people who knew something of them crawl out of the woodwork in droves. Money talks.

It's also a very convenient explanation whenever a rich and famous person is accused of anything.

user2848502016 · 10/05/2026 20:06

kkloo · 10/05/2026 19:54

No one would say the same if it were their local primary school principal or boy scout leader.
The evidence would be considered enough to remove doubt if it were any other person but MJ.

I don’t know if that’s true actually, if anyone was found to have actual illegal indecent images of children they would surely be convicted and out on a sex offender register or jailed?
So yeah I would believe without a doubt they were a paedophile.
MJ didn’t have any illegal images of children at his homes or on any of his computers

LBFseBrom · 10/05/2026 20:07

"Why a child was accurately able to describe distinctive marks on MJ's penis?"

Not difficult as Michael Jackson had extensive vitiligo. He would certainly have had white splotches on his genitals.

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