Do you believe the Michael Jackson allegations?

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For me it’s undeniable and the evidence is overwhelming, but I’m shocked by the amount of people who don’t.

Can the posters that still insist he was innocent answer the following:

Why there are so many accusers?

Why a child was accurately able to describe distinctive marks on MJ's penis?

Why MJ had a bell set up to warn that someone was approaching his bedroom?

Why he had a book of naked little boys in his bedroom?

Why he shared his bed with multiple young boys?

Why he moved on to a new "friend" once those boys hit puberty?

Why you think being found not guilty is the same as being innocent?

I mean.......come the fuck on!

I was a huge Michael Jackson fan, I had his albums and now I can't bear to listen to him.

I know. My point is that the way she and he handled the conception and birth of those children was plain wrong.

Incredibly narcissistic, in the book with the Rabbi, the Rabbi said he had a growing Messiah Complex, MJ said he knew he was healing Gavin and that if he could speak to Hitler he would change him 😅

Also incredibly misogynistic and said that women have taken many powerful men down to nothing because of what's in between their legs, he blamed Monica Lewinsky for Bill Clintons downfall.

About Lisa Marie he said he was heartbroken after they got married because she had said they could have babies straight away and he would walk around holding baby dolls crying (how manipulative can one person be 🙄)

Anyway he said afterwards that he has letters from her trying to get back with him telling him she'd have 9 of his babies if he wanted. In the context of how he spoke about women in the rest of the book it came across as so gross and egotistical.

I agree. I used to love his music. I can’t listen to it now. People just don’t want to believe that a man so talented could also be a pedophile.

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Yep it's a pedo version of the playboy mansion.

The bedroom- because he was a world famous star and needed the kind of security normal people just don’t.
The bedroom was apparently already built when he bought Neverland and that kind of alarm system is fairly standard for very well known people, so they can lock down their bedroom if there is an intruder.
I think of all the things the bedroom setup is the easiest to explain!

I’ve seen loads of stuff about the monster that was Joe Jackson and how he treated the Jackson kids and agree MJ was probably psychologically damaged, but it’s irrelevant to whether or not he abused children. Hasn’t even Paris distanced herself from him?

Yes all of that is true.

Not sure what that has to do with being an abuser though. Most people who are abusive to children (either sexual, emotional or physical) have a mixture of a trauma background, MH, substance misuse, DV, or just one of those.

The child is still a victim of abuse even though the adult has those factors.

Rich and famous people have security alarms on their houses or big gates on the outside - they don’t normally have bells that ring when someone inside the house is approaching their bedroom.

His maid had also seen him touching boys inappropriately.

No Paris hasnt distanced herself from him. I see so many videos of her saying she loves and misses him

People also think that the maid made things up for money though.

I believe someone siad that newspapers would offer people money if they said that MJ was a paedophile

Oh of course. Everyone was lying(!)

Yep. All about the 🤑🤑🤑

People were definitely getting offered money by newspapers to say he was a paedophile. That happened.

Yes, far too many apologists. Not all victims of abuse become abusers. But the ones that do are responsible for their own behaviour as adults.

And others were probably getting plenty of money by saying he's not.

I bet LaToya financially benefited from backtracking on what she said.

Well for someone who wasn’t a pedophile, he certainly did not see it as a priority to stop doing creepy things like sleeping with children that weren’t his own.

Who were these people who were offered money to make up stories? What are their names.

The other common theme in the abuse narratives was MJ giving the children alcohol and drugs and calling alcohol ‘Jesus Juice’.

Latoya said that she only said that michael was a paedophile in the first place, because she was under threat from her abusive husband.

She said that her husband told her to say it for money. She said that he was extremely violent, had connections to the mafia and would beat her up if she didnt do what he wanted.

You really do have the blinkers on, sorry.

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/aaron-carter-recalls-bedroom-incident-070616027.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAM_oKVc4_4RsVD0ZMDJ6c_1PirIKZNsqXd7nAAhBb17yzFodnpimp04QB1xES8sI4cYcnEHB9Mp_qpT0r9S-su5Uf6v_-ntWMC_qI5m1Hv9zb7I8394y_TWreshZ2i8OqzFm_PD-X8nPciWa5t3FaOPnYGCXkJ5M23EHk93yu2F4

How do I have blinkers on, when I am just repeating what LaToya said. You can look it up.

As I said, I dont have a personal opinion on whether MJ is innocent or guilty myself. We are just discussing everything that happened.

Likewise 🙄

I look at the totality of the evidence rather than wanting to believe someone is innocent because I liked their music and was impressed by their talent.

Yes I'm aware of what she said when she backtracked. Doesn't mean it's true though.