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Toy phone or potential meltdown at a family restaurant meal?

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NavigatingASD · 21/04/2026 13:17

Having a disagreement with dh about the best way to manage ds (7, autistic) at an upcoming family meal.

He can stay very calm if has a particular toy phone to play with (lights games sounds etc) it’s got 2 volume settings but doesn’t go very loud . Dh says it’s going to be inappropriate but without it ds shouting / screaming / noises will be much more noisy?? Which will annoy other people more than a toy!

We’ve had this discussion before. I always take the toy but this time he’s saying it’s not going to be ok. It’s not a particularly quiet restaurant anyway. It will keep ds calm so I can’t see the problem but what do others think is more annoying - a child on a moderately at worst noisy toy that actually may not be audible if the restaurant is very busy or a screaming child who is overwhelmed and/ or bored?

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Dazedandconfused28 · Yesterday 19:41

AnotherName2025 · Yesterday 07:33

Under whose advice are you trying to desensitise him? Or is just something you've decided will work

you can't make him be not autistic. Maybe try working with him & his needs not against them.

Not many people love headphones. But he can learn wearing them means he can play a game in a device, not wearing them men's he can't. Until he can do that & be distracted calm & quiet, you need to get a babysitter.

Babysitters are just not an option for many families of children with complex needs (mine included) this leaves them out of options and often pretty much housebound, speaking from experience

Bigears6789 · Yesterday 21:09

Take the toy or don’t go. When my autistic DD has a meltdown which we as parents could have avoided I always think - WE have put her in this situation.
WE triggered this.
If you know the restaurant without the toy would be a trigger why would it even be a consideration to go without it.
He doesn’t want to act out. He doesn’t enjoy having a meltdown. It isn’t in his control.
Going somewhere that will knowing cause an autistic meltdown causes a negative cycle of behaviour and further lowers self esteem.

You can’t train him out of being autistic.
He will never be neurotypical.

Why is DH worried about being judged for the toy? Do the in laws not know enough about autism? Or is he lacking in knowledge?

AnotherName2025 · Yesterday 21:15

Dazedandconfused28 · Yesterday 19:41

Babysitters are just not an option for many families of children with complex needs (mine included) this leaves them out of options and often pretty much housebound, speaking from experience

Yeah. Also speaking from
experience. Both sides of that coin. There's no need to be patronising and assume no one else has experience.

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Dazedandconfused28 · Yesterday 21:31

AnotherName2025 · Yesterday 21:15

Yeah. Also speaking from
experience. Both sides of that coin. There's no need to be patronising and assume no one else has experience.

In which case it seems pretty patronising to suggest it in the first place

NavigatingASD · Yesterday 23:31

AnotherName2025 · Yesterday 07:33

Under whose advice are you trying to desensitise him? Or is just something you've decided will work

you can't make him be not autistic. Maybe try working with him & his needs not against them.

Not many people love headphones. But he can learn wearing them means he can play a game in a device, not wearing them men's he can't. Until he can do that & be distracted calm & quiet, you need to get a babysitter.

So you don’t agree with desensitisation unless it’s desensitising someone to headphones ?

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Contrarymary30 · Yesterday 23:47

NavigatingASD · 21/04/2026 13:33

Nothing else keeps him calm we’ve even had to get spares of the toy in case it breaks he finds it really calming and regulating.

Take the toy ! Or get a baby sitter ? He obviously isn't comfortable in this setting if he screams etc . Is a baby sitter an option ? I'd ignore your H or see if he has a solution .

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