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Labour Isn't Working - Thread 30

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WaffleBomb · 19/04/2026 17:48

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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SapphireCasino · 02/05/2026 22:20

@Upstartled yes maybe but with that wording, you've got to wonder.

Upstartled · 02/05/2026 22:34

SapphireCasino · 02/05/2026 22:20

@Upstartled yes maybe but with that wording, you've got to wonder.

If he was being sarcastic, it was very funny.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 02/05/2026 22:41

Upstartled · 02/05/2026 22:19

I think he meant to write that Keir didn't know he had a niece who was standing. Enjoying the replies though, especially along the lines that he must be wondering who the hell he's stood next to in that picture.

Edited

I think he’s ridiculing Starmer’s lucky ignorance and his Macavity routine. It’s very funny.

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DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 02/05/2026 22:48

The replies about what opportunities of interning etc Starmer’s niece has already had are eye opening, and Rosie Duffield’s reply is also instructive.

DaffodilsandDillies · 02/05/2026 23:01

Quick glance back through some pages and I'm seeing washer dryers are being banned ?
We have a small terraced house and have a combi. Obvously we use the line whenever we can and radiators do heavy lifting In winter with a dehumidifier and clothes setting. But the dryer is essential as well !

Upstartled · 03/05/2026 07:30

We've got Badenoch, Farage and Polanski on Kussenberg today and that Labour giant...Heidi Alexander, representing Labour ahead of the elections.

NoWordForFluffy · 03/05/2026 07:42

Did Ms Alexander get the short straw? How strange that Labour haven't at least sent the Deputy PM.

Upstartled · 03/05/2026 08:01

😁 Right? Everyone else is either keeping their head down in an effort to disassociate themselves from the incoming or out on manoeuvres organising the NEC to get Burnham through the next round or stroking their list of 81 conspirators.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 03/05/2026 08:16

You’d have to suppose that whoever Labour put up would be asked about Starmer’s future.

Not a good look for Starmer to doggedly persist in telling us how important it is that he stays. Lammy is hopeless. Every other senior Labour figure is plotting and no doubt ‘unavailable’.

Step forward…Heidi Alexander, Transport Sec, who only got the job after Haigh was outed (by someone in Labour) as a convicted fraudster.

DancingFerret · 03/05/2026 08:19

DaffodilsandDillies · 02/05/2026 23:01

Quick glance back through some pages and I'm seeing washer dryers are being banned ?
We have a small terraced house and have a combi. Obvously we use the line whenever we can and radiators do heavy lifting In winter with a dehumidifier and clothes setting. But the dryer is essential as well !

It's another one of Miliband's "bright" ideas - banning conventional tumble dryers in favour of heat pump dryers. Hopefully, it won't happen.

Edit for spelling.

WaffleBomb · 03/05/2026 08:37

DaffodilsandDillies · 02/05/2026 23:01

Quick glance back through some pages and I'm seeing washer dryers are being banned ?
We have a small terraced house and have a combi. Obvously we use the line whenever we can and radiators do heavy lifting In winter with a dehumidifier and clothes setting. But the dryer is essential as well !

Welcome 👋

Not sure about washer dryers as yet, but they're proposing a ban on vented and condenser dryers.

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WaffleBomb · 03/05/2026 08:40

SapphireCasino · 02/05/2026 22:11

The story about Keir Starmer's niece

Karl Turner MP has posted that he didn't know he had a niece and that it never crossed his desk - I can't work out if this is a joke or just him throwing shade at Starmer

Because he can't actually mean what he said with the wording he used...

x.com/KarlTurnerMP/status/2050578675251216737

I can't see the replies as not on X, but that's hilarious from Karl Turner. Definitely a dig at Starmer imo. Good on him 😁

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Upstartled · 03/05/2026 08:43

I've had a look and I think washer-dryers are safe from this round of legislation.

WaffleBomb · 03/05/2026 08:57

Heidi Alexander was not very convincing on Trevor Phillips.

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TheNoWord · 03/05/2026 09:04

Well this has terrified me over my breakfast:

https://www.thetimes.com/article/d21dfdab-85e1-460e-a7f4-c4d081681cf8?shareToken=73a25e660307c57cb996bf808e232675&ver=article

Not about Labour, obviously, but if this man ends up being a ‘kingmaker’ in a left wing coalition, we are seriously fucked.

He wants to talk to people who disagree with him unless you support women’s rights or have concerns about immigration, obviously.

"Last year Piers Morgan asked Polanski if a woman can have a penis. “Yes,” he said. Can a woman who disagrees with him and publicly expresses gender-critical views, I ask, be a member of the Green Party?
“Well, I fundamentally disagree with gender-critical views.” He looks annoyed with me. “I see it as my principal job as a leader of a political party to be really clear that the Green Party is a safe space for LGBT people. It is also,” he adds, “a safe space, I believe, for women, and I don’t see these things as being in conflict.”
His tone shortens. “When you look at polling, there’s a very, very small amount of people whose No 1 issue is around reducing the rights of trans people. But I’m not interested in having that conversation.” It sharpens as he says we should “not, frankly, get caught in conversations about culture wars” but “spend a lot more time focusing on what really matters”.

He can’t claim immigration doesn’t matter to people, so I ask what his policy would look like. “The first thing is to recognise the skills gaps we’ve got in this country.” He believes anyone who wants to come here to work and pay tax should be welcomed. He wouldn’t set a limit on the number because “governments have always set arbitrary targets and completely missed them, so it doesn’t make any sense. I also think setting a target accepts the premise that migration is in some way a bad thing.”
The problems facing this country — poverty, a struggling NHS, a lack of council housing — are, he says, “problems of austerity and underinvestment, they’re not problems of migration. There’s lots of evidence to show that someone who comes here to work is more likely to pay more into the system through taxes than they are to take out of welfare.”
Economists debate this endlessly, but very few would endorse literally unlimited immigration — and a net gain or loss to the Treasury isn’t the only question. Is he willing to recognise any conflict whatsoever between modern British values and those that some immigrants bring with them? He looks annoyed again.

“People said these exact same arguments when Jews came here fleeing from the Second World War. They thought that being Jewish wasn’t quite British or that there was something unsightly or unseemly about these people. I’ve not seen any evidence that someone from another country is any more likely to cause any problems than someone who’s from this country.”
The data on comparative sexual offending rates among recent immigrant communities is disputed and inconclusive. What would Polanski say to voters alarmed by recent news reports of rapes committed by asylum seekers? “A woman who is sexually assaulted is much more likely to be abused by a partner, or someone in their own family, than they are by a migrant. Domestic violence and abuse need to be taken really seriously.” "

Zack Polanski: ‘I want to talk to people who disagree with me’

Decca Aitkenhead grills the under-fire Greens leader on his response to the Golders Green attack, his economic vision and his party’s lack of an immigration policy

https://www.thetimes.com/article/d21dfdab-85e1-460e-a7f4-c4d081681cf8?shareToken=73a25e660307c57cb996bf808e232675&ver=article

WaffleBomb · 03/05/2026 09:17

ZP scares the shit out of me.
Just watching his interview on Sky and he is vile.

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Upstartled · 03/05/2026 09:19

WaffleBomb · 03/05/2026 09:17

ZP scares the shit out of me.
Just watching his interview on Sky and he is vile.

Yes, agreed. He's a horrible man. He's doing his sorry-not sorry routine on LK, he's a complete and utter dick. And so, so dangerous.

Hallowedturf · 03/05/2026 09:20

Upstartled · 03/05/2026 09:19

Yes, agreed. He's a horrible man. He's doing his sorry-not sorry routine on LK, he's a complete and utter dick. And so, so dangerous.

A reprehensible little shit.

His 15 minutes are ebbing away.

EasternStandard · 03/05/2026 09:22

Agree re ZP and how dangerous he is.

WaffleBomb · 03/05/2026 09:22

Upstartled · 03/05/2026 09:19

Yes, agreed. He's a horrible man. He's doing his sorry-not sorry routine on LK, he's a complete and utter dick. And so, so dangerous.

Couldn't agree more. He is dangerous.

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Parsley4321 · 03/05/2026 09:29

Please let ZP 15 minutes be over soon
Heidi Alexander is Kathy Bates in misery she has evil eyes

EasternStandard · 03/05/2026 09:29

Dismissing women as ZP does below and some do on here is revolting to see but the markets will react to his economic plans with the same admonishment as anything too left, ie trying to borrow and spend more.

It’s the one stop gap that makes me feel a bit better.

NoWordForFluffy · 03/05/2026 09:35

EasternStandard · 03/05/2026 09:29

Dismissing women as ZP does below and some do on here is revolting to see but the markets will react to his economic plans with the same admonishment as anything too left, ie trying to borrow and spend more.

It’s the one stop gap that makes me feel a bit better.

It baffles me how many self-proclaimed feminists yell 'trasphobe!' at women attempting to protect women's and girls' sex-based rights on here. Being called transphobic really isn't the gotcha they think
it is (or the woke bros when they do it), bearing in mind all it means is that you don't agree people can change sex and have the utter temerity to vocalise that. So, ummmm, being right!

Anyway, on ZP, I think he's possibly taken it too far this week and his star is already starting to fade. I certainly can't see him withstanding GE-level scrutiny when we're at that point.

SapphireCasino · 03/05/2026 09:45

@TheNoWord I think I posted my concerns about ZP as King maker in November - and oh boy, how much worse things have got since then. people were still posting quite positive things about him then, so I feel better that on this site at least people are starting to wake up.

@Upstartled thank you
I hope my washer dryer lasts a really long time

Bad news for Europe as well

Last year I actually found some figures showing how lack of air-conditioning leads to deaths in summer in Europe. I must try and find it again before we get the inevitable complainers in a heat wave

It's amazing how these so-called green targets result in going after all the wrong things

Albertroad · 03/05/2026 09:59

I hate this government, but listening to them skirt around the issue like Heidi Alexander refusing to name what is the obvious threat to this country is really giving me the rage.

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