School car crash - are the police being thrown under the bus?

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15732723/Police-biased-female-killed-girls-crash-Wimbledon.html

I remember starting a thread on this some time ago and I think the general conclusion was that epilepsy (undiagnised) would in all likelihood be the reason for this tragedy given the cirumstances. there was a long discussion about the nature of this consition.

There was also the feeling that the parents should grieve and let go after this tragedy yet it appears the thing has escalated to involve racism and questioning of the investigation resulting to my mind the police being pressured to make another arrest simply because the senior met didn't like the optics of this rather than material change in circusrance.

Are those investigating officers being thrown.under the bus because the met politically would like to see something done here with a rich white woman being talked when there seems to be no evidence at all she didn't have a seizure? If it realistically can't be proven a seizure didn't occur aren't we headed for a painful trial for the parents where they gain will feel justice won't be done???

Neither OP or anybody else on this thread has any idea of the full details of this investigation. The whole thread is in very bad taste and should be taken down.

How do you know this? Are you saying she never stopped driving after the incident?

This! And language like “driving a Range Rover to taunt poor people” does not help.

I hope the truth will out one day but it’s unlikely.

How does it "prove" that? What evidence do you have that a qualified doctor is prepared to put their entire career and reputation at risk by lying on this woman's behalf?

It is perfectly legal to drive after a seizure free period. In fact, after a first seizure you can reapply after six months if you can satisfy the DVLA’s medical advisers that there is not a high risk you’ll have another seizure, on the basis of information from your doctors and any investigation they decide to carry out.

She lives in Wimbledon....

I don't think the inquiry will find the police got it wrong, but that the way it was handled was influenced by bias, due to race and influence.

If that's the case, they should be held to account.

I wonder how much all this reputation management is costing the Fremantles? They’ve certainly been busy across social media.

Precisely.
The vendetta nature of this detracts from the real egregious failure of police in the Southport and Birmingham cases where previous criminal actions and mental illness of the period by the perpetrator was ignored repeatedly by the police.

I think it’s one year form the date of the last seizure but I might be wrong.

I often think there is a problem with an emotive tragedy and mob mentality and the need to find blame so I agree.
See also Lucy Letby.

She used some distant Dubai doctor to ‘confirm’ a seizure.

I do find it erm…interesting that Claire Freemantle is met with suspicion and sharp questioning on MN, with many posters pointing out how her image has been scrubbed from the internet thanks to her wealth and influence, and then someone just happens to pop up and tell us all how she’s definitely innocent and this is a witch hunt and isn’t she lovely really yeah?

I thought the issue was whether she should have been driving, rather than whether it was a seizure? Whether she knew she was prone to seizures and hadn't reported it to DVLA, which would have prevented her from driving.

However, I think the inquiry will show that there was something wrong with the handling of the case and the treatment of the victims parents', probably due to racism and the driver bei g treated as a VIP due to connections and influence, rather than any change to the outcome.

You’re weird, with your poor Claire bullshit. Save your sympathy for the two children she mowed down and their families. If she genuinely believed she’d had a seizure, she wouldn’t still be driving , not just for fear of killing someone else, but also herself.

So you think the Police don't investigate or do their jobs properly? fair enough, seems like they don't in many cases....

So why do you think they have done their job here then?

Remember this is the same Met that enabled racists, rapists & murderers to go on doing as they please & more widely, Police forces & a CPS, that have failed time and time again to deal with rape gangs.

There was an initial investigation that led to a decision by the CPS not to prosecute or charge.

The victims families pushed hard for a new investigation based on additional evidence. There is a new investigation and the suspect has been rearrested. The crash investigation is ongoing.

There are now accusations of misconduct by the original investigation team. These seem to centre on providing misinformation to the victims families and not following credible lines of inquiry. The accusations could come from the families or from within the police or both. The misconduct investigation will be carried out by the IOPC.

It’s hard not to conclude that the current investigation has highlighted differences in approach from the first and this is the basis for the accusations of misconduct.

It is unlikely that the IOPC investigation will get very far until the criminal investigation and any subsequent prosecution is concluded. A court case would test the credibility of both investigations and any evidence presented. The court findings would be relevant to the misconduct investigations. But the second investigation hasn’t led to charges.

I don’t understand how the woman can drive again after killing two little girls! Even if it is true she had an epileptic fit. I know I’d never drive again after hurting someone, let alone killing them. It is right that the circumstances are investigated - if she wasn’t breathalyser then that’s a clear failure that needs to be looked at. Same re mobile phone. So many accidents are caused when using them surely it’s a possibility that needs looking at?

Presumably her mobile phone records were checked to see if she was using her phone at the time of the accident?

If this was truly an epileptic fit, that came completely out of the blue, then how could she ever dare to drive again? It's almost like Claire Freemantle knows 100% that she will never have another seizure.

It sounds like the original investigation was flawed. They are reexamining things. As they should do. They need to get to the truth… whether that will give the girls’ parents any peace, I don’t know. But it’s definitely the right thing to do. At the moment there are unanswered questions and far too much speculation.

There's a Guardian article summarising most of what you said.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/apr/14/police-watchdog-wimbledon-crash-inquiry-schoolgirls-death-nuria-sajjad-selena-lau?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

It feels as though some people want the driver jailed guilty or not. That's revenge, not justice. None of us writing here have any real knowledge of what happened and the aftermath, there is plenty of speculation. there seems to be a bias against rich white women here. Unfair as any other bias.

I have a friend who had her first seizure in her 50s, she initially thought it was an "upgrade" of the migraines she was prone to. She had another and this time her husband saw her so was able to explain what he saw. She was put on meds and hasn't had a seizure since - 15 years and counting.

No her defence ought to be tested in court. There are two dead girls.

Tell that to Emmet Till.

It should only be tested in court if there is a case to answer. The CPS decided, in the first instance, that there wasn't. If the police failed in their duty then I hope they are disciplined.

Do you have any actual sources or evidence? Or by "as far as im aware" do you actually mean "from what ive heard fifth hand and am repeating as gospel despite the fact it contradicts all the officially released information?"

The investigation has to find evidence of a crime for the CPS to be able to prosecute. That seems to be the sticking point.