Why is the Wimbledon school crash investigation not getting more attention?

[Eesha]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15731159/Eleven-Met-Officers-probed-Wimbledon-crash-killed-schoolgirls.html

Why isnt this bigger news? This school is similar to mine, and it seems like they have great lawyers who got her off.

Exactly - how silly “take it down”

They took down the other thread

I wonder if it will come out that she has a history of possible seizure like events (strange episodes, not convulsive seizures) that she didn’t report to her GP and so weren’t investigated.

I can’t see how she can be held criminally responsible for the accident unless this were the case.

However, that would mean they would have to prove that she knew her episodes were potentially epileptic in nature and that she purposefully chose not to go to her GP as she knew there was a risk she may lose her licence.

But how do you prove that?

There’s something suspicious about it though because if it was as black and white as this was just her first seizure then she wouldn’t be at fault, but the fact shes being charged with dangerous driving means there’s a lot more to it than just that.

Thank you - someone with some sense

it could be nothing to do with seizures and she could have been driving below standard

we won’t know none knows till the case

Stop being busybodies

it’s ok to discuss our views on developing topical news

I don’t think mumsnet is gonna crack the case

nobody knows what the case is

@Pippilongstocking2 because they were taken to hospital where they received ECG and an MRI. Then monitored for 48 hours as they can be a precursor to a full stroke.

Maybe they’ve been a bit dim

And yet here is you being a busy body and telling off others.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/transient-ischaemic-attack-tia/diagnosis/

Not always visible on scans so often a process of differential diagnosis.

Yes exactly!

How I’m telling off others

im not telling anyone what to do, just you, to stop trying to shut down our discussion of the news of the day

leave the thread if yoi don’t want to discuss

I know this

my point was to show it can be detected afterward

or the greed of the car manufacturers who see £ signs with the bigger cars.

Much more money in selling a hulking SUV than a Toyota Yaris, for example.

How would the comments on here prejudice the case? it has been thoroughly reported on in the news!

Well there certainly seems to be rumours that she’d had some sort of episodes before. But definitely did not have an epilepsy diagnosis as that would be provable.

I do wonder if she had previously had some mild absence type seizures and not realised they could be epilepsy. Potentially mentioned them to friends/other school mums that she sometimes “zoned out” or similar. Potentially they’ve now told the police this. And if she hadn’t sought medical advice then have they now decided that reaches the threshold?

Obviously this is all conjecture but it would make all the pieces in the puzzle fit.

If you ‘know this’ then you’ll also know that small lesions can’t always be detected afterwards, and diagnosis is often a process of elimination. Many TIAs missed or misdiagnosed, and many that are diagnosed are cryptogenic and/or don’t show up on ECGs or MRIs.

And no one knows what the case is!

It was a general point

Or she could have just been driving below standard

I reckon she’s been caught in a lie

Apparently, she got out of the car after the incident, after driving a distance which must have taken less then 1 minute. So, this unconscious period you are referring to must have been very short indeed. But yes, a momentary blackout could have caused this - if indeed there was a blackout.

I’m surprised you know that as apparently the scene was utter chaos

A general point that is incorrect and irrelevant, since there has never been a claim that the driver had a TIA.

All of this. Freemantle has Lennox-Gastaut Syndrome, a severe form of epilepsy presenting with multiple types of seizure. It's unknown whether she was legal to drive - if she'd been seizure-free for a year or more, she may have declared it and been cleared. But she may never have declared it.

A 'pillar of the community type', she's served on the boards of several schools including The Study.

The suspicion is that officers may have been over-eager to support this middle-class white woman, who had accidentally killed two brown children.

Having a medical emergency while driving isn't a crime, though failing to declare a condition to the DVLA is.

average weight of a land rover is between 2,300 kg and 2,800 kg (approx 5,000–6,200 lbs)
average weight of a mini cooper is between approx. 1,225–1,770 (approx 2,700-3,900 lbs)

does this make a difference in an accident? the short answer is yes

https://findingspress.org/article/141647-do-sports-utility-vehicles-suvs-cause-more-severe-injuries-to-pedestrians-and-cyclists-than-passenger-cars-in-the-case-of-a-crash-findings-from-gr

We conclude that in Great Britain, being hit by an SUV as opposed to a passenger car increases injury severity among pedestrians and cyclists, with the strongest effect in children. This effect is well-captured by the dimensions of weight and height, but not by length.

it was a general point that everyone mentioning TIAs it’s generally detectable after