Why is the Wimbledon school crash investigation not getting more attention?

[Eesha]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15731159/Eleven-Met-Officers-probed-Wimbledon-crash-killed-schoolgirls.html

Why isnt this bigger news? This school is similar to mine, and it seems like they have great lawyers who got her off.

yes loads of cars are far too big.

Only a few people will have an aura with seizures. They are not a given at all.
Just to point that out ! There are so many varieties of seizures. They all manifest in different ways. .

There is a belief the crown were too quick to decide not to charge in that case, as it later transpired the driver had had similar medical episodes which he had not disclosed to DVLA or his employer

Because people seem to be saying her claim that the crash was a result of a seizure isn’t true as it’s “convenient” that her first one happened to her when she was driving which then caused the death of two children.

I was just making the point that people can have their first seizures at any point and during any activity, including whilst driving.

It’s horrific what happened to those poor girls, but it may genuinely have been a tragic accident.

Ok

but I don’t believe for a moment this was the explanation - never have done

there is now enough evidence to charge her with death by dangerous driving

I hope they throw the book at her

and don’t anyone say she could be innocent - it wouldn’t have got this far - the parents have urged the police to investigate properly and this is the result

Agree with this completely. We have tiny roads comparative to America. And smaller land mass overall.
So anything from roads, garages, parking areas on houses and car parks are built far smaller compared to the USA. Who have masses of space and can build wide roads, bigger carports etc.

We have a responsibility to not let these 80mph tractors on our roads simply to satisfy the ego of people who have the money to afford them

What do you think has happened ?

My asking by the way doesn’t mean I think she is innocent of anything or guilty. I do not know details to form an opinion.

She’s arguing it was very obvious at the time and she has witnesses to that. So we’ll see

Why is this thread still up now that she has been charged and comments could prejudice the ongoing case? A thread was withdrawn earlier today for this precise reason.

I agree with this.
Nothing wrong with factual information about epilepsy or anything like that. But it is a thread that needs removing.

Absolutely, my brother doesn't get any warning at all. One minute he’s awake and talking, and then a second later he's on the floor unconscious.

The term ‘aura’ isn’t used as commonly anymore either as it used to be classed as something separate to a seizure. However, it’s more understood now that the aura in itself (however it presents) is a result of abnormal electrical activity and therefore is actually signifies the seizure activity has already started (as opposed to a warning that a seizure is about to start).

Epilepsy is such a complicated condition and the stereotype is that it consists of people dropping to the floor and convulsing but there are so many different forms of seizures and they all affect a persons levels of consciousness and awareness in many different ways.

Yep. Friend of mine had one. They had just picked up another friend and five minutes later had a TIA as he was approaching a junction. Didn't stop because he couldn't, went straight across the road, clipped a sign, and ended in a ditch.

Fortunately no other vehicle was on the road - it was relatively rural - and neither were badly injured. But had it been a built up area? Far more likely to have hit another car(s), pedestrians, etc.

He'd never had a TIA before.

Not being disingenuous but I’m not really sure I get the focus on the size of the car. A small car could certainly kill 2 children and there are many examples of this.

plus the other example on this thread is of someone falling unconscious driving a bin lorry- demonstrating how this can happen
to a HGV driver as much as anyone else.

Yes being hit by a lorry is far more dangerous than being hit by a ford fiesta but we wouldn’t argue for the banning of HGVs on this basis?!

Good point I have reported

A friend's son has just been diagnosed with epilepsy after having a seizure while driving. He went straight over a roundabout and ended up in a hedge. Luckily in a rural area, and no-one else involved, and he wasn't hurt.

Now his friends/ family are aware of it they have realised that what they thought was day dreaming are actually absences when he's not aware of his surroundings. They last about 30-60 seconds, so most of the time aren't very noticeable. He's probably had them while driving before, but at times when the car was going in a straight line with no need to stop.

The comments can’t prejudice an ongoing case. We know bugger all about it. People discussing a case doesn’t prejudice it

This.

No idea but it isn’t innocent on her part

And the police and cps aren’t buying it that’s why they gone back arrested and charged her

And how did they know they’d had a TIA?

It is a key case because if she did have a fit, and is subsequently found guilty of manslaughter etc it may have implications for those who have a heart attack or similar at the wheel and sadly kill people as a result.

I don’t think that it will have any new implications. I think it has always been the case that in circumstances where a driver suffers a sudden, genuinely unforeseen episode - a seizure or heart attack, say - and this leads to the injury or death of others, then the driver may not necessarily be held criminally responsible. If, however, they had ignored medical advice or knew or suspected that they weren’t fit to drive, then they may be found guilty of a criminal offence. I presume that the police now have evidence in this case to that effect. In the case of the woman in Bristol who was found guilty, it was reported that:
The court was told Fiona Hodge had suffered a number of "weird" episodes linked to undiagnosed epilepsy before the crash.

I’m no expert but my understanding is a TIA creates a blood clot which can be picked on a scan or otherwise makes itself known (as obviously can be very dangerous)

Becuase we need hgvs and bin lorrys - they are for purpose - the bin lorry’s in our street go about 3 miles an hour - how fast in your street?

the damage these tractors on the roads do to children as compared to say a fiesta is miles apart - an impact with the bumpers on them alone can kill instantly - the bumper on a fiesta I doubt it

the example you give of the bin lorry - it was very obvious what happened - no ducking and diving

this case has been full ducking and diving by Fremantle - much like the American who killed Harry Dunn

Exactly