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This song should have been banned

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HelloDenise · 02/03/2026 13:14

Susan Cadogan – Hurt So Good Lyrics | Genius Lyrics https://share.google/fXhmd5KSrhfJUNtnp

I just heard it and looked up the lyrics. Appalling.

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AntiqueBabyLoanSmurf · 03/03/2026 12:41

BiscoffCheesecakes · 02/03/2026 20:44

It's more of a metaphorical battle, like in chess, where you take your opponent. He's not suggesting he's going to beat her up or rape her

Yes, when he sings "lay your fortress open wide", it's just a more poetic way of describing what they're both willingly getting up to.

If, instead, he'd sung "kindly facilitate the next stage of intercourse, but only if you fully consent", he would have sounded like Alan Partridge!

youbizarrehorse · 03/03/2026 12:45

AntiqueBabyLoanSmurf · 03/03/2026 12:41

Yes, when he sings "lay your fortress open wide", it's just a more poetic way of describing what they're both willingly getting up to.

If, instead, he'd sung "kindly facilitate the next stage of intercourse, but only if you fully consent", he would have sounded like Alan Partridge!

I can absolutely hear those exact words coming from Alan Partridge🤣🤣

Dillydollydingdong · 03/03/2026 12:52

So what's wrong with it? I've seen much worse. I was shocked when I read the words to Brown Sugar!

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Ohwhatfuckeryitistoride · 03/03/2026 13:41

VictoriaEra · 02/03/2026 16:43

What about Mac the Knife?

God yeah, and not the sanitised version. Rape, arson and murder aplenty. But he didnt discriminate in his violence.

HelenaWilson · 03/03/2026 13:43

It's all Lolita's fault not Gary's.

It's not 'Gary'. The song isn't about him. He didn't write it. He's singing someone else's words about a fictional boy and girl.

MargoLivebetter · 03/03/2026 13:53

Thank goodness for freedom of speech. Banning stuff is an absurd response, unless it is hate speech or illegal. Discuss it instead!

I could not have hated the lyrics & video to Blurred Lines more (despite the unbelievably catchy tune), but instead of tutting and banning it, I had a really good chat with DD, who was about 14 at the time. Asked her what she thought about it and we ended up having a good conversation.

BiscoffCheesecakes · 03/03/2026 14:04

Ohwhatfuckeryitistoride · 03/03/2026 13:41

God yeah, and not the sanitised version. Rape, arson and murder aplenty. But he didnt discriminate in his violence.

I found what I thought were the original lyrics & it just seems to be a tale of a murderer. No big deal

BauhausOfEliott · 03/03/2026 14:07

HelloDenise · 03/03/2026 11:42

I think it's glamorising pain and encouraging women to relinquish agency.

Do you honestly think the message of that song is 'Hey ladies! This is a great way to live'? Seriously?

Are you this literal-minded about everything? You think all songs are instructions, or the literal truth as experienced by the person singing it?

Surely you can see that the 'narrator' in the song is meant to be a tragic figure, one that the listener feels sorry for? Because I think it would be very obvious to most people that this is the case.

BiscoffCheesecakes · 03/03/2026 14:16

HelenaWilson · 03/03/2026 13:43

It's all Lolita's fault not Gary's.

It's not 'Gary'. The song isn't about him. He didn't write it. He's singing someone else's words about a fictional boy and girl.

Yes, just like Madonna singing Papa Don't Preach. She wasn't pregnant when she recorded it. Even if the singer had written it, it doesn't mean it's autobiographical

AntiqueBabyLoanSmurf · 03/03/2026 14:25

youbizarrehorse · 03/03/2026 12:45

I can absolutely hear those exact words coming from Alan Partridge🤣🤣

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AntiqueBabyLoanSmurf · 03/03/2026 14:27

BiscoffCheesecakes · 03/03/2026 14:16

Yes, just like Madonna singing Papa Don't Preach. She wasn't pregnant when she recorded it. Even if the singer had written it, it doesn't mean it's autobiographical

And Mark Knopfler was never a private dancer for pervy men either...

TragicMuse · 03/03/2026 14:27

if you object to that then Kiss With a Fist by Florence and the Machine is far worse.

Or Foundations by Kate Nash.

its not new and it’s not gone away.

AntiqueBabyLoanSmurf · 03/03/2026 14:29

Dillydollydingdong · 03/03/2026 12:52

So what's wrong with it? I've seen much worse. I was shocked when I read the words to Brown Sugar!

The Rolling Stones acknowledged a long time ago that the song was somewhat 'problematic' and refused to perform it again thenceforth.

They obviously thought it was OK when they first released it, though...

AntiqueBabyLoanSmurf · 03/03/2026 14:32

Ohwhatfuckeryitistoride · 03/03/2026 13:41

God yeah, and not the sanitised version. Rape, arson and murder aplenty. But he didnt discriminate in his violence.

And Delilah as well - it's sung proudly and with gusto as a great celebratory song, almost as a modern-day equivalent of Land of My Fathers!

TheBestThingthatAlmostHappened · 03/03/2026 14:37

She's expressing her feelings- or at least the feelings of the persona she's created for that song. People sing about all sorts of things, murder, adultery, drug addiction. It might be their lived experience, it might be just a story, fictional or someone else's story. It's not an instruction to go and do the same.

youbizarrehorse · 03/03/2026 14:46

AntiqueBabyLoanSmurf · 03/03/2026 14:25

🤣🤣

Dawnintheageofaquariams · 03/03/2026 19:28

thedevilinablackdress · 03/03/2026 07:49

OK I'll bite. Leaving aside that the song came out in 1971, way before the era of personal home computers, what is wrong with the lyrics?

The most dreadful, mawkish, cloying sentimentality.
Surprise, surprise given where Lennon briefly lived before making enough bread to move away.
Utter nonsense, with the worst rhyming, from the person that wasn't even the best John Lennon in The Beatles.
That was Paul.

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