This song should have been banned

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I just heard it and looked up the lyrics. Appalling.

Yes, when he sings "lay your fortress open wide", it's just a more poetic way of describing what they're both willingly getting up to.

If, instead, he'd sung "kindly facilitate the next stage of intercourse, but only if you fully consent", he would have sounded like Alan Partridge!

I can absolutely hear those exact words coming from Alan Partridge🤣🤣

So what's wrong with it? I've seen much worse. I was shocked when I read the words to Brown Sugar!

God yeah, and not the sanitised version. Rape, arson and murder aplenty. But he didnt discriminate in his violence.

It's all Lolita's fault not Gary's.

It's not 'Gary'. The song isn't about him. He didn't write it. He's singing someone else's words about a fictional boy and girl.

Thank goodness for freedom of speech. Banning stuff is an absurd response, unless it is hate speech or illegal. Discuss it instead!

I could not have hated the lyrics & video to Blurred Lines more (despite the unbelievably catchy tune), but instead of tutting and banning it, I had a really good chat with DD, who was about 14 at the time. Asked her what she thought about it and we ended up having a good conversation.

I found what I thought were the original lyrics & it just seems to be a tale of a murderer. No big deal

Do you honestly think the message of that song is 'Hey ladies! This is a great way to live'? Seriously?

Are you this literal-minded about everything? You think all songs are instructions, or the literal truth as experienced by the person singing it?

Surely you can see that the 'narrator' in the song is meant to be a tragic figure, one that the listener feels sorry for? Because I think it would be very obvious to most people that this is the case.

Yes, just like Madonna singing Papa Don't Preach. She wasn't pregnant when she recorded it. Even if the singer had written it, it doesn't mean it's autobiographical

And Mark Knopfler was never a private dancer for pervy men either...

if you object to that then Kiss With a Fist by Florence and the Machine is far worse.

Or Foundations by Kate Nash.

its not new and it’s not gone away.

The Rolling Stones acknowledged a long time ago that the song was somewhat 'problematic' and refused to perform it again thenceforth.

They obviously thought it was OK when they first released it, though...

And Delilah as well - it's sung proudly and with gusto as a great celebratory song, almost as a modern-day equivalent of Land of My Fathers!

She's expressing her feelings- or at least the feelings of the persona she's created for that song. People sing about all sorts of things, murder, adultery, drug addiction. It might be their lived experience, it might be just a story, fictional or someone else's story. It's not an instruction to go and do the same.

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The most dreadful, mawkish, cloying sentimentality.
Surprise, surprise given where Lennon briefly lived before making enough bread to move away.
Utter nonsense, with the worst rhyming, from the person that wasn't even the best John Lennon in The Beatles.
That was Paul.

I don't think this should have been banned, but I heard this gem on the radio this morning and never realised it's a classic example of DARVO. I'd have sung along with it as a 10 year old without thinking.

The rumour's true, you know that there've been others
What can I do, I tell you baby they don't mean a thing
Now girl don't go and throw our love away

Cheeky chuffer blaming the woman. Change! LTB!

It's a song, a work of fiction describing the complex emotions of a woman who cannot leave an abusive relationship as she is still in love with him. Pop songs are not manuals for life, like all art they reflect the complexity of the world around us.

Don’t listen to Big Booty Hoes then, whatever you do!

My mind must be in the gutter after reading too many dark romance books but isnt this about sex/"edging"?

Why must everything someone finds objectionable be banned? I hate this 'ban everything' mindset! It's weird!!!!

This is a very good point, and very well made. Songs, stories, characters and other creative art can be descriptive rather than just assuming that the singer/author or whoever is condoning it.

As far as I'm aware, Agatha Christie never once told her readers that they should go out and murder people using one of her 'endorsed' methods as described!

The issue with young girl is that it is us young girls wanted an older guy to sing that about us. And that we could have that power over someone.

Absolutely, we’d have to ban Stand By Your Man for a start. And Gloria Gaynor’s Never Can Say Goodbye seems to me about a woman trying g to leave an abusive relationship, though I Will Survive is about a woman who has succeeded in doing so.