I'm no fan of Donald Trump, but..

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I'm no fan of Trump but imagine if Biden or Harris had won the 2024 election:

Maduro would still be destroying Venezuela

The Ayatollah would still be killing his own people in Iran

Iran would still have nuclear weapons

There would probably still be Israeli hostages in Gaza

India and Pakistan could be at war

As could Armenia and Azerbaijan; Rwanda and DRC; Egypt and Ethiopia; and Cambodia and Thailand

Russia would be in a much stronger position in Ukraine

Other NATO countries would be spending less on defence.

He's not very good domestically but that's an incredible record on foreign affairs. Let's face it: The world would be on fire if Biden or Harris had won. Trump is seen as a strong man around the world and, outside of the west, that's probably respected.

Lovely to see Jews and Persians dancing together in the streets not a mask, balaclava or keffiyeh in sight

Good news just coming through.

The PM has had another UTurn moment and has agreed that US Forces can use British airfields/bases.

Thank you so much, I genuinely appreciate you reading my posts and your understanding, you have no idea what that means

I have no interest in going back and forth with people like the other poster.

I can only speak for myself, my family, for my people, things I’ve personally experienced, for what those around me have endured, and for what I’m witnessing week after week on the streets at protests alongside fellow Iranians. That’s the reality I’m drawing from but of course people like that poster dont want to listen.

Someone like that has already made up their mind. It’s narrow-minded, but it is what it is. Some people aren’t interested in educating themselves on actual iranian lives or listening to our actual cries. Our voices have been ignored for decades now and no one wanted to hear us and that’s exactly how we’ve come to the position that we are in today with the these developments.

I’m here to share lived experiences not to convince those who have already decided they don’t want to hear them, They have their agenda, and they’ll stick to it regardless of what’s being said by you or me ❤️

Hilarious. Another deciple of Corbyn....Maybe you should hop on a plane and get yourself to Iran. That way you can be amongst women who can tell you what it's really like to live under the evil regime who have just been wiped out. You haven't walked in their shoes, but obviously you hang on the words of the discredited Jeremy...he clearly knows better and is ignoring the words of women who have lived it...

I find astounding that predominantly white left wing / liberal women protesting against the attack on the Iranian regime seem to think that they know better and what's best for Iran than Iranian women supporting the attack on the Iranian regime.

How do you know who is left wing or liberal? Please
tell me.

Hi, Melania.

I'm all for listening to everyone's voice whether I agree with them or not. I don't think that filtering out certain voices or dismissing certain people as being brain washed because they don't tow the line everyone wants to hear is the way forward. 90 million people have a lot of different thoughts, feelings and fears and they all deserve to be heard as I am sure most would agree.

I think the point is that not all Iranian women speak with one voice. Many will be delighted by this latest development and very optimistic about the future. Manywill be pleased to see the back of the old leader but feel very anxious about how the situation is going to unfold. There will be some who hate the regime but don't see foreign intervention as the way forward. And I guess there will even be some who wanted the old regime to continue.

Exactly. Many hate the regime (completely understandably) but there are other Iranians who clearly support it. Iran is made up of 100 million people, after all and they will have many different opinions. I suspect that many who do not support it do not relish the US interference and do not imagine that things will improve for them despite Khameni's murder. The US have a very poor history of success in their regime change missions.

Well so far those in the West protesting against or criticising the attack on the Iranian regime have been the Islamo leftists (eg Corbyn, Green Party, pro Palestinians etc). Hence the assumption.

That said if I hear the likes of Reform criticising the attacks then I would be happy to stand corrected.

What an ignorant post. You think that everyone criticising the attack must be left wing. What a foolish thing to assume!

Why do you think its over? The second 8n command will take over. There is no opposition just unarmed protestors and Trump thinks hes going to leave them to it. All hes done is killed a few people (lots) pushed up oil prices and therfore everything else.
Hes not solved Ukraine and seems to have walked away.
Venezuala unchanged
Nato countries dont trust him
Canada doesnt trust him
Most peope think hes deranged and a pervert getting away with hiding the truth badly.

@1dayatatimeme too! Then to make themselves all feel better they start posting things like ‘two truths can be right at the same time.’ Their virtue signalling is too much!

Lol at the idea that people are "virtue signalling" when they simply acknowledge that it's possible to hold more than one thought in their brains at any one time. Perhaps that really does look like virtue signalling if your brain can't cope with more than one idea at once. Who knew?!

@MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBacki keep reading and watching post after post from the Iranian people explaining beautifully, eloquently and often painfully what the attacks on Iran have meant to them… like being released from a chokehold…. They don’t want patronising comments from people with zero understanding of what they’ve suffered as a people for over 40 years. Let’s be honest Nobody likes Trump, but for the Iranian people his actions have bought a glimmer of hope and some respite and all they are asking for is some time to be allowed to rejoice in a moment without the constant virtue signalling for those who supposedly have a superior view of the world than them!

Right.

Yes, there is absolutely a glimmer of hope for many Iranians right now, and I very much hope that this will be the beginning of better times for them, but the very small number of Iranian posters on MN don't necessarily speak for all Iranian women. It has nothing to do with virtue signalling or thinking that my view is superior to that of people with lived experience. It simply has to do with the fact that there are different views being expressed by different people.

Of course people can rejoice about the removal of the old leader, but we don't yet know what's coming next and we should recognise that there are some Iranians who don't necessarily see this as the end of their struggle. The friend that I spoke to this morning was very anxious about the uncertainty that lies ahead. Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe was also saying earlier that it would be naive to think that this is it and that everything is going to be amazing now.

As things stand, the regime is still in place - different leaders, but still hardliners by all accounts. We just don't yet know what's coming next. Is it really that surprising that some people are cautious?

That one bad guy murdered over 35,000 citizens in recent weeks. How many more do you think he should be allowed to kill before action is taken? Or does your score board only count collateral and not murder.

No one wants to stop some Iraninan people from celebrating but, as has been said several times, it is only some Iraninan people, they are not a homogeneous mass, any more than all the British people are, less so probably. It also seems very premature to be truly celebrating as no one has any idea what is going to develop in coming days/weeks/months and years yet. The situation may get better for Iranians but it is equally likely that it gets worse. It is not patronising or dimissive to state these facts.

“Islamo” wtf does that mean?

I get it that it does look good to remove a dicator, but I don't think this will be seen as a good move in the future history classes.

As for the other things, there is no reason to think that any other US president would have not have been able to do that in the same time frame.

I think the Iran situation would have been better to be a bit more like the Osama Bin Laden where it was black ops.. in and out without the collateral damage.

FYI there was protest in London from Pro Palestinian supporters saying ‘hands off Iran’! Not one single Iranian present…. I suggest those of you who are so supportive of the IR and worried about those poor people in the country that support the regime that kills over 20,000 of its own citizens in less than a month, sentenced women to death for being raped and gauge women’s eyes out, go and join them on their next protest!

@rainingsnoring@MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack I’m not reading a few posts on here, I’ve been following Iran for years. I have Iranian friends who have friends in Iran. Even if there was a huge group of (men) that supported the regime (there isn’t) why do you care so much about people who’d happily see you and your family murdered, who’d torture and murder you for the wanting your own rights? Make it make sense! They hate you yet you seem so concerned about their welfare!

I don’t recall saying that action shouldn’t be taken.

I don’t believe that action should have also caused the death of 153 children.