US strikes Iran

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In conjunction with Israel.
Why? Starting wars has never ever ended well for the US, or for the country they are trying to 'help.'

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn5ge95q6y7t

I’m currently in Abu Dhabi on holiday and they’ve bombed the air base down the road from our hotel. So this isn’t a huge heap of fun right now

I agree. I follow several Iranian accounts on X and have been listening to updates from Mayhar Tousi. Seems like many Iranians have been asking for help.
The news coming out of Iran in the last couple of months have been shocking, but also the determination and the bravery of the Iranian people is incredible.
Thousands killed by the regime during the uprising in early January and yet people kept protesting.
I saw heartbreaking footage of people celebrating at the funerals of their loved ones killed by the regime, just to show their defiance and that they weren’t beaten.

I feel like we’ve had decades of gaslighting being told Iran wants to invade us.. now it’s finally happened, expect the other way around- The US & Israel are invading them! who’d have thunk it!

I’d be happy to see the end to the Iran regime any which way but I gather from this interview on Sky News from Rob Macaire the lack of organised opposition means that the only way the current regime will be toppled is if the regime’s military forces change allegiance.
Maybe that will come but I don’t think it’s automatic outcome.

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-latest-israel-launches-preventative-attack-defence-minister-says-13509565?postid=11159437#liveblog-body

I'm so sorry - I'd be nervous as hell as well in any of the Gulf countries right now.

You’ve been told Iran wanted to invade the UK? Or where do you mean?

I do agree that Iran's rulers and top army need to be put in prison and an end to what they have become. But this does not sound like a good idea to me. I think the movement needs to be from within Iran, led by them, with who they want to be ruled by. This of naming the Sha's son does not strike me as any solution. And nothing will work in Iran till the army itself raises against their top leader and the Revolutionary guards with him. Which, I expect to be rather close, as they have attacked their own people, and that is the ultimate sin before a civil war.
What I think will happen is that Israel and US will bomb Iran for a few days. Iran will bomb Israel and US bases, close the transit of crudein retaliation. US may bomb nuclear sites, again, with wich I do not agree. The risk of radiactive material been blown around is just too much. And then.... back to nothing.
If Iran was ready to pound on their leaders, they would have done it during the protests crackdown.
And getting into an actual full on war with Iran will cost Trump all MAGA support.
It will, yet again, cost Europe a rise in oil prices and all prices. It will stir up China and Russia. Particularly China.
And I hope Starmer says we are not sending a single soldier to this.

That they are threatening global security more broadly. They were part of the “axis of evil” if you remember, plotting to nuclear bomb the west and Israel. We’ve been peddled some version of this “Iran. Bad.” story for as long as I can recall.

Iranians aren’t bad at all, the opposite they deserve to thrive, but they are being treated horrifically by a regime that suppresses them by any means necessary.

That's before actions in the area by the regime and proxies.

Have you read what is happening to the people there?

I've marched with Iranians who want freedom from an theocracy that has tortured & murdered 10,000s. The same regime that has been a state sponsor of terrorism including against Brits & recently reported by UK security services as a top threat to Brits.

@inamarina are you refering to the list of reasons why a direct attack on Iran has been deemed too risky to act based on US military intelligence? For decades. Being the high risk of terrorist attacks within US and Europe part of that list. And that list also included how the Iranians themselves, though they oppose their government, they will not agree with having their country taken by a foreign army. For decades, US has pondered whether they could take Iran or not. Circumstances have changed. But I am not sure enough yet.

Re: Iran = bad, have you been following how the government has been treating its own people, especially over the last couple of months?

Well, given the massacres of tens of thousands of people in Iran, not to mention the untold victims of its Proxys, this could be a liberation for Iranians. They have been taking to the streets for months, being murdered by their own rulers- young people, kids many of them-because they are so desperate to be free of the Islamic Regime.
War is always awful, I hope the regime is toppled with minimal civilian casualties.
If Iran can become a democracy of 90million people (and they will need help) it would have a massive affect on the Middle East.
Figureheads like Trump never do anything for the “ right” reasons but at the same time I can’t see how Iranians can liberate themselves with no help.

Not true, it us targeting civilians in Israel as it always does. My friends & family are yet again in a bomb shelter.

It has been for weeks & those protesting have been asking for help. Many strikes are targeted at top regime & IRGC leaders & military targets.

Israeli's are currently in bomb shelter's because their leadership decided to launch a pre-emptive strike on a sovereign country for "reasons", a declaration of war.

Iran didn't fire first, despite this I hope that all civilians in the region remain safe.

It was all over the news so hardly a big surprise this was happening.
It's still bloody scary he's looking for a big fight and will probably try and drag everyone in with him.

If we go into WW3, it will be Trumps doing.
It was horrific news to wake up to.

Those poor innocent Iranian people, caught between an evil leaders and Trump.

Could this be a very terrible smoke screen for something much worse?

I do hope Iranians can take over, but I do not see how this can succeed without the army turning against the leader and his loyal guards. Though, all Iranian males do have military training, not sure they can organise a take over. Maybe handing them weapons would be more effective than bombing?

He has his eye on the Peace Nobel Prize LOL
No words.

Many Iranians have been asking for help from the US, especially over the last couple of months.

What can be worst than this?

I think it’s easier to say Iranians can do this alone, their reality is it’s much more difficult.

Iran needs to be free. Lived there as a kid for a while until the Shah was toppled, in fact my dad had to get us out very fast in '79. Normal Iranian people are some of the best on the planet, kind, proud, generous to a fault. What happened to that country is literally criminal.

Am just not sure that Trump and Netanyahu are the answer, Netanyahu clearly has no 'off button', he doesn't know when to stop and he's always hated Iran. I can only hope that this does lead to a regime change and is short and swift but I wouldn't put money on it.