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Thread 44 Starmer - Knolraap en lof, schorseneren en prei.

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DuncinToffee · 19/02/2026 15:42

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Notonthestairs · 25/02/2026 16:01

Oh is that what the leader of the opposition does? Just repeats stuff other people say? I guess you could use that excuse for anything.

Piggywaspushed · 25/02/2026 16:02

For a start, the term paedo is so fucking childish. It's year 9 boy vocabulary. I assume she is appealing to the Reform voters. Even though she is a Tory.

Karistyleaftea · 25/02/2026 16:08

@Alexandra2001 Well I'm glad he reported it.
He is speaker of the house and if Mandelson had done a runner, it would be another stick to use to try and bring the Government down.
IMO.
I appreciate we will never know if he would have run off, but surely tipping off others about financial affairs whilst in government
( allegedly )
must be somewhere near insider dealing category?
Also , who is to say he would have stayed in The BVI ?

placemats · 25/02/2026 17:06

Piggywaspushed · 25/02/2026 16:02

For a start, the term paedo is so fucking childish. It's year 9 boy vocabulary. I assume she is appealing to the Reform voters. Even though she is a Tory.

Restore Britain.

placemats · 25/02/2026 17:08

So just to ask. If Mumsnet became like X would you still post on here?

DuncinToffee · 25/02/2026 17:21

The clear out continues

Matt Pound, Rachel Reeves’ political secretary, is leaving government. This is the very last of the team loyal to McSweeney.

That influence is now gone from government - remains unclear what will emerge next with big roles still unfilled.

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DuncinToffee · 25/02/2026 17:22

placemats · 25/02/2026 17:08

So just to ask. If Mumsnet became like X would you still post on here?

In what way?

I deleted X quite a while ago now.

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PandoraSocks · 25/02/2026 17:33

It was absolutely clear that she was hoping the phrase would take hold. She was grinning away. This is what she said:

"I am amazed that while we are trying to talk about student loans, the Prime Minister has the cheek to talk about my party being smaller. His party is smaller too, including one MP who was arrested for child sex offences. Perhaps before he gets on his high horse, he should ask why his Back Benchers are saying that they are being called “the paedo defenders party”. [Interruption.] I did not say it—"

PandoraSocks · 25/02/2026 17:41

Piggywaspushed · 25/02/2026 16:02

For a start, the term paedo is so fucking childish. It's year 9 boy vocabulary. I assume she is appealing to the Reform voters. Even though she is a Tory.

It is a favourite amongst some on MN too. Often spelt "peado".

Piggywaspushed · 25/02/2026 17:44

Yup.

placemats · 25/02/2026 18:14

DuncinToffee · 25/02/2026 17:22

In what way?

I deleted X quite a while ago now.

It's starting to feel like X in that there's a lot of posts with extreme views.

placemats · 25/02/2026 18:19

DuncinToffee · 25/02/2026 17:21

The clear out continues

Matt Pound, Rachel Reeves’ political secretary, is leaving government. This is the very last of the team loyal to McSweeney.

That influence is now gone from government - remains unclear what will emerge next with big roles still unfilled.

In her disastrous PMQs today, Badenoch mentioned Reeves supposed 'job' in the Bank of England. To be clear this was a reference to Rachel from accounts which is just beyond the pale from an opposition leader.

From AI.

"Rachel Reeves worked as an economist at the Bank of England for over five years, joining in September 2000. She worked in the structural economic analysis division and undertook a secondment at the British Embassy in Washington DC.'

Raven08 · 25/02/2026 18:28

I assumed that the Tories had planned on Jenrick as Bad Enochs successor...no idea who would take on such a poisoned chalice now
I'm horrified by some of the decisions Starmer has rubber stamped - Mandelsons role as US Ambassador for one - but people have very short memories...
Pincher?
Chope?
Watching porn on the back benches?
Parasitic grift from the tory MPs during the covid pandemic and all other times!
I sometimes feel like I'm living in a parallel universe where the years 2010-2024 and the horrendous effects of Tory austerity policies didn't happen...
Fake news?

BIossomtoes · 25/02/2026 18:32

Badenoch’s absolutely desperate. She looks more irrelevant every time she loses another MP.

Raven08 · 25/02/2026 18:33

BIossomtoes · 25/02/2026 18:32

Badenoch’s absolutely desperate. She looks more irrelevant every time she loses another MP.

Yes.
I agree
She's just woeful and makes Starmer look like the only adult in the room

PandoraSocks · 25/02/2026 18:36

BIossomtoes · 25/02/2026 18:32

Badenoch’s absolutely desperate. She looks more irrelevant every time she loses another MP.

Yes, she is irrelevant at the moment. Reform is the opposition to beat right now.

I hate that fact. I would much rather the official opposition was the actual opposition. But politics is through the looking glass at the moment.

Raven08 · 25/02/2026 18:37

If I had Reeves ear I would tell her to;
Put NI up to 20% (most people will happily pay for decent nhs services...)
Sort out tax bands - its too much of a cliff edge >£60k
Tax the fucking billionaires
Companies that don't pay tax should leave the UK
^ I don't think any of this is outrageous or unachievable 🤷‍♀️

Raven08 · 25/02/2026 18:39

@PandoraSocks
My dc said that they never thought they wouldn't rejoice at the demise of the Tories 😕

PandoraSocks · 25/02/2026 18:46

Katy Amess (daughter of David Amess) has condenmed Badenoch's "paedo" smear and says she should apologise for her inflammatory language today.

LlynTegid · 25/02/2026 19:07

Karistyleaftea · 25/02/2026 16:08

@Alexandra2001 Well I'm glad he reported it.
He is speaker of the house and if Mandelson had done a runner, it would be another stick to use to try and bring the Government down.
IMO.
I appreciate we will never know if he would have run off, but surely tipping off others about financial affairs whilst in government
( allegedly )
must be somewhere near insider dealing category?
Also , who is to say he would have stayed in The BVI ?

Like you I am glad.

Peter Mandelson has so much form for slipperiness and dubious behaviour, The Speaker was reasonable to take credence for the suggestion given to him.

DuncinToffee · 25/02/2026 19:20

placemats · 25/02/2026 18:14

It's starting to feel like X in that there's a lot of posts with extreme views.

It does.

I try not to post on those threads and scroll past an other.

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PandoraSocks · 25/02/2026 19:27

DuncinToffee · 25/02/2026 19:20

It does.

I try not to post on those threads and scroll past an other.

I hide a lot of them now so that I am not tempted to post and I hid AIBU a few days ago.

MsJinks · 25/02/2026 19:41

Paedo is just what the hard of coping with a hotel protest not being allowed close access to hurl personal abuse at counter protestors were shouting - over and over as they also seemed too challenged to think of anything else relevant to their ‘concerns’.
Us counter protestors had speakers, songs, various sayings.

But every single time I hear this word I think of the collective hotel protestors - I guess Kemi probably would back them but it is very, very far removed from what I expect to hear in Parliament or at PMQs.

But surely, people have barely recovered from the horror of Raynor saying ‘Tory scum’ so this will be even more appalling for everyone - umm.

Alexandra2001 · 25/02/2026 20:03

Karistyleaftea · 25/02/2026 16:08

@Alexandra2001 Well I'm glad he reported it.
He is speaker of the house and if Mandelson had done a runner, it would be another stick to use to try and bring the Government down.
IMO.
I appreciate we will never know if he would have run off, but surely tipping off others about financial affairs whilst in government
( allegedly )
must be somewhere near insider dealing category?
Also , who is to say he would have stayed in The BVI ?

mmm perhaps but as Mandelson is employing Mishcon de Raya, i doubt he planning to flee, he is innocent until proven guilty and the Met were happy for him to attend an interview in March.
So presumably did not see him as a flight risk or evidence to charge him.

Btw, i'm not defending him, i think he is a vile individual, who should get the full force of the law if he is guilty but atm he is not.

I just don't like the circus the surrounds these hi profile arrests, with press etc its trial by media...

I would just like to know who told Hoyle this info... it all smacks as a bit of a set up i.e Tory Media....

I also detest the fact that men are being arrested for everything but sex with trafficked women and under aged girls, as always, money & power buys silence.

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