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Thread 43 Starmer : il ritorno della luce e la semina del Lathyrus odoratus

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DuncinToffee · 06/02/2026 12:36

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SerendipityJane · 07/02/2026 11:30

PandoraSocks · 07/02/2026 11:06

God, there is. I think the deluge of rain is rotting some people's brains.

Another of my idle speculations is the effect of climate on character.

Base instinct makes me feel that people who grow up in areas where the day to day is pretty set by climate must have a different mindset to people who grow up in countries (hard stare at the British archipelago) where you can have four seasons in one day at any time of year.

Surely it burns it's way into culture disposition and what eventually coalesces into national character ?

Samuel Johnson sort of summed it up:

"When two Englishmen meet, their first talk is of the weather"

(Ordinarily I'd point out that historically "English" and "British" were very much interchangeable. But given Johnsons famous antipathy towards the northern part of the island, I can't be sure 😀 . And "men" was generally taken to include "women" as well. )

BestIsWest · 07/02/2026 11:32

In the words of Rhod Gilbert, ‘ I’m Welsh, I was 8 before I knew I could take my cagoule off.’

persephonia · 07/02/2026 11:36

PickAChew · 07/02/2026 10:58

Isn't this at odds with opposing the lifting of the 2 child benefit cap or is this another case of only for the right families?

You don't get benefit for your third child. You DO get a telegram from Andrew's brother. Who wouldn't want to have another kid to get that?

Notonthestairs · 07/02/2026 11:38

Yeah, the telegram on the birth of your 3rd child really made me laugh.

increasing tax on those that don’t have children not so much.

DuncinToffee · 07/02/2026 11:42

He has bought a £1m house near Bath,

https://nation.cymru/news/the-new-leader-of-reform-uk-wales-lives-in-bath-not-wales/

Farage told the Reform event in Newport: “He has not been brought into Reform ‘from the outside’.

“He has voluntarily left London, come back to the Valleys, living in Islwyn, come back to his home, and he’s done that because he loves Wales.

“He’s done that because he wants his children to grow up being Welsh.

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SerendipityJane · 07/02/2026 11:43

Notonthestairs · 07/02/2026 11:38

Yeah, the telegram on the birth of your 3rd child really made me laugh.

increasing tax on those that don’t have children not so much.

Having children costs more in almost exactly the opposite way of being disabled.

If we're talking about tax breaks and benefits.

itsgettingweird · 07/02/2026 11:47

BIWI · 07/02/2026 09:54

… and we’re driving home today in what looks like it will be the same!

I’m driving Portsmouth to Swansea in 2 weeks.

im hoping for an improvement in the weather by then. I’m afraid I’ll be sorely disappointed!

BestIsWest · 07/02/2026 12:03

itsgettingweird · 07/02/2026 11:47

I’m driving Portsmouth to Swansea in 2 weeks.

im hoping for an improvement in the weather by then. I’m afraid I’ll be sorely disappointed!

Looks out of window at relentless rain and sighs.

BestIsWest · 07/02/2026 12:08

My lawn. Somewhere near Swansea.

Thread 43 Starmer : il ritorno della luce e la semina del Lathyrus odoratus
PandoraSocks · 07/02/2026 12:11

It is awful, isn't it @BestIsWest ?

Something to cheer you up. The rank stupidity of a pro-arsonist:

Thread 43 Starmer : il ritorno della luce e la semina del Lathyrus odoratus
DuncinToffee · 07/02/2026 12:11

A nearby road is flooded again. Council put bollards at the road side so at least the cars cant mount the foot path anymore.

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Efacsen · 07/02/2026 12:46

Rain is possibly heavier today - it's more overcast - lights on all day

PickAChew · 07/02/2026 12:55

BestIsWest · 07/02/2026 12:08

My lawn. Somewhere near Swansea.

Happy Great Job GIF by The Woobles

You'll have ducks moving in.

placemats · 07/02/2026 12:56

Sun is attempting to break through and we're promised a dizzying high of 10C. My outdoor thermometer is at 9C.

RafaistheKingofClay · 07/02/2026 13:02

I glanced over at a lake on the way home from work yesterday afternoon. It took a while to remember that it’s supposed to be a field.

cardibach · 07/02/2026 13:03

Notonthestairs · 07/02/2026 11:38

Yeah, the telegram on the birth of your 3rd child really made me laugh.

increasing tax on those that don’t have children not so much.

I’d understood they didn’t like people using tax resources when the weren’t paying enough? That seems to be the moan about asylum seekers (one of them anyway). Logically then, people with children should pay more - I don’t think they should, for clarity. Just questioning the logic.

pointythings · 07/02/2026 13:16

Dreary drizzle here now. And we went to the wrong place for the test. Then went to the right place, were late. DD upsetbug went in anyway to let them know and say sorry. She hasn't come out yet, going to check ina minute and if she's not out, assume they have kindly squeezed her in. It's a very mundane thriller situation

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 07/02/2026 13:25

We're on flood alert at the moment - but we don't tend to worry until we get to severe flood warning status.
Don't even have any water in the back garden yet. But the rain seems endless.

LlttledrummergirI · 07/02/2026 13:31

itsgettingweird · 07/02/2026 11:47

I’m driving Portsmouth to Swansea in 2 weeks.

im hoping for an improvement in the weather by then. I’m afraid I’ll be sorely disappointed!

I would say drop in for a coffee while you're passing, but we are heading up the M5 that weekend as dd competing.

@pointythings waiting for them is the worst feeling. There is nothing you can do to help and know that they have probably built it up in to their heads as the ball and end all. I hope it goes well fo her. Flowers

pointythings · 07/02/2026 13:33

LlttledrummergirI · 07/02/2026 13:31

I would say drop in for a coffee while you're passing, but we are heading up the M5 that weekend as dd competing.

@pointythings waiting for them is the worst feeling. There is nothing you can do to help and know that they have probably built it up in to their heads as the ball and end all. I hope it goes well fo her. Flowers

Well, she's not out so I think they've let her test. She can't tell me, because I have her phone.

LlttledrummergirI · 07/02/2026 13:47

I used to wish the had a cafe in these places so I could at least be close by. With a treadmill for pacing.

pointythings · 07/02/2026 13:55

I agree. But it's warm in the car, I have a book and decent 5G and it could be worse.

placemats · 07/02/2026 14:00

I'm here for the mundane thriller situation.

Sun has given up. 10C achieved at least.

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