Thread 43 Starmer : il ritorno della luce e la semina del Lathyrus odoratus

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It is a big shift from paying out millions to save his sorry arse.

I wonder how Elizabeth II will be seen in 200 years time ?

Mandelson was supported by plenty of people and organisations, until very recently, inc the BBC, where he was on their GE panel.

Very few at the time of appoint as US Ambassador said he shouldn't be, because of links to Epstein, its was all about comments about Trump, inc Bandenoch.

Yes it was a stupid decision (in part hindsight) but we don't yet know what Starmer was told.

On his replacement, the markets don't want him to go, just as they don't want Reeves to either, removing KS would mean RR goes too, Gilts fall, economic uncertainty, higher debt...

Its quite amazing that the guy never mentioned in the EF's is the one who may well lose his job as a result of the EF's..... Meanwhile we all fawn over Trump.....

The media fawns over Farage. Poor Kemi.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5200634-if-youre-a-tory-voter-who-do-you-want-for-leader

Took two answers before the expected answer came up.

Starmer greeted by cheers at PLP meeting - behind closed doors

It’s a zombie thread too…

Correction - two answers and over a year...

From 2 years ago!!

Re the Olympics -I haven’t been able to supervise what with gadding about in London. Turns out the curling goes better when I don’t supervise (no spoiler, it’s not finished).

This is nice to hear

PLP meeting has finished - initial feedback appears pretty positive but I guess we'll see

I hope they support him.

I don’t think he should go and the media should be pushing for those names in the files to run the country. They aren’t even hiding their double standards.

Right now we need continuity and stability.

@Alexandra2001 You make some good points.
On LK yesterday she, (LK) looked furious when Pat McFadden passed it back to her that she had interviewed P Mand recently and she hadn't seemed bothered by his links then, or questioned him much about it , ever!
Our PM has such strength , how he is coping with this relentless onslaught I do not know.
He is not the evil monster here, this hounding is getting beyond ridiculous now .
He has the stoicism to deal with this and there seems to bit of a shift coming, giving him more support as people realise the media are being totally out of order now. They need to stop.
IMO.

Sums it up

https://bsky.app/profile/viviane49.bsky.social/post/3meham3itqy2e

We need stability as a country, we don't need more of the dicking around we got from the tories.
We also need the media (especially the apparent neutral bullshit BBC), to start holding those up to their necks in the scandal to account. That means Reform, whether they like it or not.

I don't understand why there is no pressure being applied to those involved, and I'm becoming increasingly irate with it.

I’m just watching ITV NEWS it feels like the press are trying to bring down the Govt and the Monarchy in the same week!

i don’t know what they expect the King & Prince William to do? They’ve taken his title, kicked him out out of his home! I mean no sympathy for him what so ever but do they expect KC to drag him down to the nearest police station?

What’s their game? The press I mean not KC!

Missed much of the news today. Scrolled through to catch up. Notable excitement from certain commentators. Which they then had to roll back. agree with @LlttledrummergirI‘s assessment. Nobody voted for more Tory style psychodramas.

Farage appears to have called for an end to home working and flexible working to increase productivity.

It’s going to take me a while to stop laughing. I presume this means he will be spending more time both in Clacton and in Parliament.

Didn't Badeough take that line a year ago? He's slipping.

Ending flexible working doesn’t even improve productivity anyway. It excludes thousands of people from productive work. Disabled people, those living in “left behind” communities far from city hubs, those with caring responsibilities etc.
What gets me is the sheer hypocrisy of insisting that despite social/medical limitations everyone should be able to do some work, then insisting that work means full time, office based work, then complaining that people need accommodations and time off from work.
People are not units from which we extract work, they are complicated, social beings with lives and varying needs throughout their working lives.
Companies that understand that have loyal, productive employees. Companies that insist on “team players giving 110% to the company” have a churn of employees who leave as they burn out or get better offers.

Acknowledging any of that is "woke" though.

As always it will fully appeal to his fan base - those who think some folk loll around at home waiting for a gilt edged pension - and they want this to stop (as they don’t have it)
Then they will be surprised when it applies to them, particularly the flexible working - I think maybe it is part of the women at home breeding fantasy Reform has, as it would disproportionately affect people caring and as we know this is still mainly women.
My only teeniest tiniest pleasure of getting a Reform gov’t would be seeing how folk voting for leopards reacted to these leopards eating their face - but it wouldn’t be worth it, nor do I even like myself being this person. I am still doubtful they’ll win in 3 years - best if they start to fail soon.

Farage has a bloody cheek given his routine.

But it’s not really about ‘productivity’ is it.

Flexible working policies encourages the disabled & women. Allows for people with caring responsibilities. Diversity.
And we know diversity is bad because Trump doesn’t like it.