A pro Trump thread to balance the 154 anti Trump threads!

[Carpediemtoday]

Thought I’d be brave and start a pro-Trump thread for a change, after all, there are so many anti-Trump ones , we need some balance!
I even tried commenting on an anti-Trump thread today… and wow, just kept being told to go away, my comments were not well received. Honestly, I feel honoured to feel as if I have been officially deported, what an achievement!😂

I will try and answer your question. Firstly I think it's important to separate the individual from the policies. It would be fair to say that as an individual a fairly strong proportion of voters would find him unelectable on numerous grounds (misogyny, draft dodging, convictions etc etc ).

So how did he get elected? The answer is that he had policies and Kamala Harris had nothing, he promised change and Harris promised no change.

The majority of voters wanted to stop illegal migration. Under Trump there has been a 95% drop in illegal migration compared to peak figures under the Biden administration. There are many voters in the UK who would support a political candidate who would achieve a 95% drop in illegal immigration here.

But by way of best explanation of why people voted for Trump, Jonathan Pie does a far better explanation than I ever could:

People who support Trump, people who can see good values within him, who believe he has all of America's interests at heart, are not intelligent people at the most basic of levels.

There is no supporting of him.

The usual maga apologists may well crawl out from under their red hats on this thread. However, the recent release of files and the shooting of Alexander Pretti give them no grounds to continue supporting him. They should be pushing the Republican Party to reform.

May Trump be impeached and imprisoned before the end of the year.

Actually many voters vote on the basis of policies and how that would effect/ benefit them and the country rather the personality and character of the political leader.

Indeed it could be argued that voting purely on personality rather than policy would be the unintelligent thing to do.

I do remembered in his first term the economy was booming and thriving until COVID. Strong economic growth, record low unemployment. His energy policy was shielding energy prices from even larger increases

Foreign policy I feel he's more stronger at press during other players.

@1dayatatime - sadly I suspect that the reason people didn't vote for Kamala Harris has much more to do with her being a woman of colour, and not a lot to do with policies.

But how does that explain that whilst in the running Biden was also polling much lower than Trump because equally he wasn't promising any change. Then when Biden dropped out and Harris took over she was initially polling much higher than Trump. But once people looked at what she was promising in the way of policies (or absence of them) then her support quickly declined.

If her skin colour was genuinely the issue then she would never had initially polled higher than Trump.

I don't think it had anything to do with her skin colour (after all Obama was elected) and everything to do with a lack of policies, inability to understand that voters wanted change and an appalling campaign despite out fundraising Trump ($2.3 b vs $1.9 b).

I disagree with you. Susie Wiles said they are putting Trump "on the ballot" for the midterms because when he's not then they lose the votes. This would suggest it's all about him and not about policy.

Voters mostly base their decisions on the economy. This is how the US economy has performed in the first year of his presidency:

https://www.businessinsider.com/charts-president-donald-trump-first-year-economy-tariffs-jobs-inflation-2026-1#consumers-have-continued-to-spend-7

Actually many voters vote on the basis of policies and how that would effect/ benefit them and the country

Unless they are rich that's backfired on them, hasn't it. There is little benefit to any ordinary person in rising prices, and the USA surely doesn't benefit from being despised all over the world and losing allies left right and centre because its leader is an unreliable, arbitrary clown.

(How can anyone outside the USA feel good about any country whose leader decides to bomb another country on Christmas Day and says publicly that he did this as "a Christmas present" for the victims? Aren't other countries likely to worry that they might be next to be bombed if that leader happens not to like their face colour or the shape of their noses?)

Indeed it could be argued that voting purely on personality rather than policy would be the unintelligent thing to do.

Well, yes; and that is what practically every Trump voter says that he or she did, when asked. "I like him" comes first, rather than "I like his policies" (and if they say they like his policies the only one they seem to know about is "keeping out people from other countries" – like his mother, and his wife, and the ancestors of justabout every person saying it...). They believed what he told them, fancied the idea of "a business man" rather than a politician running the country, and quite failed to notice that he was a totally useless businessman who was constantly going bankrupt and managed (incredible as it may seem) to lose money running a casino, which went bust with him in charge.

But his policies don't benefit them. That's why his popularity is hitting historic lows.

A list please....

Good luck with that. Crapdiamente started the thread on 29/01/2026 at 17:46 and hasn't been back since 29/01/2026 19:49, ignoring repeated requests for anything to support that claim.

Could but have said this better!

There is the Epstein list ...but maybe not the list they want to talk about.

Absolutely and the economic performance is definitely behind his fall in popularity.

Of course with economic performance it's impossible to say whether the competing political party (Harris) would have done better or worse.

Well he has brought illegal migration down by 95% compared to the peak under Biden.

Economically it's more of a mixed bag:

https://www.businessinsider.com/charts-president-donald-trump-first-year-economy-tariffs-jobs-inflation-2026-1

For folks "nowt like the '30's"....

Trump calls on Republicans to ‘nationalize’ future elections | CNN Politics

1dayatatime
Well he has brought illegal migration down by 95% compared to the peak under Biden.

Has he, though? The numbers of people he is having to imprison or deport for entering the country illegally don't exactly tell that story. Or is it that the illegal status of the people his forces are arresting, detaining and deporting is debatable?

Oh, and can you produce evidence that illegal migration is down by 95%? Over what period is that figure taken, and against what previous figure? It sounds highly unlikely to me, but I need actual numbers rather than percentages of who-knows-what before I am certain about it. A high figure for one thing and a low figure for another when both are about the same group of people seems well dodgy to me.

(edited to add: hang on, are you crapdiamente under another name? You seem to feel you ought to answers questions addressed to that poster. But two examples isn't really a list.)

Any time people give statistics like “95%” I raise an eyebrow.

It's rather like the percentage of voters in Russia who loyally support Putin, isn't it.

👆This explains brilliantly why Trump won and Kamala lost! The voters did not want 4 more years of exactly the same policies. Kamala was offering nothing new. When asked what her policies were she would just talk about how bad Trump's policies were and what a horrible man he was. She kept telling everyone that if she got in, she would not change anything.For example on the programme "The View" when asked what she would do differently from Biden. she said that she could not think of one example of where she differed with President Biden on a policy.

Some of the other reasons voters did not like Kamala:
Her favourite phrase that was repeated endlessley but never explained:
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1017336039594247

Her confusing word salads.

she changed her accent several times to suit the audience - made her sound fake.

Then that ridiculous advert that encouraged voters to vote for Kamala but not to tell husbands and friends and lie and tell them you had voted for Trump.
So basically Democrats were saying it is ok to lie, in fact please lie to your stupid husbands and friends to get us into power! WOW!

When asked about Joe Biden's health, she never told the truth.

I didn't think there was any "possible" about it: wasn't he found guilty over E Jean Carroll? Or was that a lesser charge of "only" sexual assault? Or was it not rape because that's criminal and the Carroll case was a civil suit?

No. It really doesn't. The real reasons will have to do with voter psychology, not reality.

It was completely evident that love Harris or not, the choice was like, as someone pointed out, being on an airplane and being offered a choice between chicken marsala and dog shit and slivered glass stew, and going, well, I'm a bit tired of chicken, so...

Couldn’t agree more - I personally think it wasn’t a great choice, partly because I think the US is still incredibly mysogonistic, partly because I too thought a lack of talking about policy and far too much ‘hope and joy and I’m not Trump’ - however given a choice of her or a convicted felon, failed businessman multi times over, utter bullshitter, complete fruitcake, and a man obsessed about his ratings, ( and im
pretty sure that shooting was staged too using some poor sucker) I will take the rather woke opposition.