A pro Trump thread to balance the 154 anti Trump threads!

[Carpediemtoday]

Thought I’d be brave and start a pro-Trump thread for a change, after all, there are so many anti-Trump ones , we need some balance!
I even tried commenting on an anti-Trump thread today… and wow, just kept being told to go away, my comments were not well received. Honestly, I feel honoured to feel as if I have been officially deported, what an achievement!😂

Here's the evidence you requested:

https://www.ttownmedia.com/news/national/q1-border-crossings-plummet-95-from-biden-era-lowest-in-history/article_1049b093-5fba-5f0a-b2d6-c50e0f6a8cb0.html

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2026/02/02/migrant-encounters-at-the-us-mexico-border-are-at-their-lowest-level-in-more-than-50-years/

Oh ffs - you think that the Trump shooting was staged...

Do you have any theories on whether the moon landings were faked as well???

1dayatatime
Here's the evidence you requested

Thank you.

I continue to ask "95% of what, over what period", which I can't establish from what you give me there. It can't be year-on-year; 237,583 is not five per cent of 1,500,000 (that's 75,000) nor yet of 2,200,000 (that's 110 000).

I tell you what, about Trump getting shot: I'd have found that more convincing if he'd seemed able, a couple of days later, to remember which ear it was that had been nicked by the bullet.

The timing was fortunate in the extreme. And his earlobe recovered beautifully.

unlike his rotting hands 🙌

It's in the article I posted but here are the numbers of migrants apprehended at the Mexico border between October to December:

2022: 865,333
2023: 988,512
2024: 392,196
2025: 21,815

Of course you can debate whether the reduction in apprehensions is due to lower numbers crossing the border or due to border guards choosing not to apprehend so many people. But those are the figures.

As for Trump not remembering which ear was shot that doesn't surprise me as he can't even remember country or leader names probably including his own name.

Also @Manifestsleep @1dayatatime - the reason that values and behaviour is important in a leader is that "events happen"... and you can't create manifesto policy for everything that could occur during your tenure.
You HAVE to, therefore, trust that your leader will make a judgement call on events through a lense of beliefs that you agree with. I believe a person shows these through their behaviour. For example, being honest, decent, possessing family values, a strong belief in the constitution, not having sex with minors. IF someone mocks disabled people or thinks it's ok to grab women by the pussy, then they're not going not going to make judgements on healthcare that I agree.

Whilst the timing may or may not have been convenient for the Trump campaign, the timing wasn't so fortunate for Corey Comperatore and his widow doesn't seem to be recovering so well either.

Honestly you need a fairly sick mindset to promote these type of conspiracy theories:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20jez2dvw8o.amp

Not as sick as a Trump supporter 🤮

If you really think Trump would give a shiny shit I have a bridge to sell you 😵‍💫

I actually wish he had won the 2020 election. Then this shit show just might be over. We wouldn't have JD Vance as VP but Mike Pence who whether you like or loath him at least was a bit of a stabilising influence and a experienced politician plus he didn't bow to Trump and did what he had to do under the constitution for the handover from the old administration to the new one. Just my two pence worth.

1dayatatime
Well he has brought illegal migration down by 95% compared to the peak under Biden.

I would question the evidence you've provided as it only relates to illegal entry via the Mexican border, when many illegal immigrants are people overstaying visas, so moving from legal to illegal status within a relevant year.

Figures for 2023 estimate that around 510K people in the above category, constituted 40% of new unauthorised migrants.
Compare this figure to approximately 860K in the same year who entered the US illegally via a border crossing, but there no official figures for the total number of illegals across the different entry points.

It is true, under the Trump administration southern border crossings have fallen considerably but 95% is neither officially reported or verified.

In addition under Trump one set of illegal immigrants increased in 2026 ... through his act of withdrawing the legal status of Haitians who had been allowed to enter the US legally, for humantitarian reasons, after the 2010 earthquake that left 1.5 million homeless.

This link helps explain the complexity of trying to provide accurate figures.
https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/how-many-illegal-aliens-entered-us-2025-65e33a
Official reporting assembled here does not provide a single, definitive count of how many people “illegally entered” the United States in calendar year 2025.

My point is that if you can't say how many people entered illegally, how can you know that this unknown figure is 95% less than in a previous Biden year?

logicisall

logicisall
My point is that if you can't say how many people entered illegally, how can you know that this unknown figure is 95% less than in a previous Biden year?

Seems a fair question to me.

(How the previous post happened I can't start to guess; I pressed return for a new line and it posted instead. Sorry about that.)

I am no fan of Trump - he's an arrogant misogynistic bully, a shite businessman who only got where he is on the back of his father's money. What's worse imo is that as Commander in Chief he dodged the Vietnam draft twice and my personal peeve is mocking Senator McCain over his torture as POW.

You see there are plenty of real evidence backed criticisms of Trump without having to resort to batshit conspiracy theories that demean the very real suffering of Corey Comperatore's widow and his children.

Again you really have to be quite sick to promote that level of disgusting conspiracy theory.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20jez2dvw8o.amp

As you point out if you don't know how many people are illegal immigrants in the US then you can't say how much this figure has been reduced by.

But what figures you do have is the number of illegal migrants apprehended at the Mexican border and it is this figure that the figures I provided show a 95% reduction.

A key reason for this I would guess is the fear and risk of being detained and deported. If this is the case then that fear and risk would apply to other illegal migrants already living in the US.

I have provided the only figures that are available - they are not perfect but are better than any unsubstantiated counter argument.

I think if you're chiding posters on Mumsnet for their behaviour you might want to look at the person with the biggest microphone in the world.

I mean, just off the top of my head, he and those around him have used the pulpit of the White House and the social media platforms that they literally own, to smear Renee Good, Alex Pretti. Not to mention Nancy Pelosi's husband and Tim Walz via Melissa and John Hortman (and their golden retriever).

Maybe unwrap your moral rectitude shawl.

His health is declining.
He can't live forever despite what he believes.

So coming up with disgusting batshit conspiracy theories that diminish the suffering of a widow and her children is all perfectly acceptable simply because the man in the WhiteHouse is a twat.

No- the fact that Trump is a twat does not mean that those conspiracy theories are not batshit and not disgusting.

I completely agree- there is a theory that a lot of his actions look like a man in a hurry and on borrowed time.

His dubious financial practices also look like a man trying to set a family legacy to position his children's political careers.

In January 2025 at the lying in state of Jimmy Carter, Trump was lip read to reportedly say : “You know, within ten years that will be me.”

I think it will be sooner.

I think you have to ask yourself why people would even consider that it might be true?

I am a rational person but actually when it omes to Trump, nothing is off the table. He is such a heinous individual that I wouldn't put it past him.
Putin reportedly ordered the Apartment bombs in 1999, which killed 300 people, to bolster his support. Trump has no moral compass, he lies constantly and is desperate for approval. He will do whatever it takes. This doesn't even seem that much of a stretch.

Why would the distinct possibility that the shooting was staged in any way demean Corey Comperatore's family's suffering? If anything, it makes it more disgraceful that he was killed in order to further Trump's political ambitions.

I'm not into conspiracy theories. Of course I feel terrible for his widow. Just as I do for the families of Alex Pretti, Renee Good, Erika Kirk and the Hortmans' children.

That does not diminish the fact that the most powerful person in the world routinely promotes conspiracy theories, lies, maligns, diminishes and attacks people in similar situations. People on Mumsnet are just talking. He has very real power and uses it to ruin lives. So, yeah, IDGAF if someone wants to dabble in a conspiracy theory about what was, after all, a very convenient incident.

And how does a conspiracy theory diminish her suffering, anyway? A death is a death. Whether a person believes a crazed assassin did it or not.

Oh, and by the way, Trump spent time palling around with Alex Jones when it was convenient for him. You know, the Alex Jones who said the Sandy Hook parents were lying about their children's brains being splattered all over their classrooms? Yeah, that one.

Your priorities are skewed.

The answer is that people believe and spread conspiracy theories because it makes them feel like they are somehow superior and "in-the-know" on something that other people don't know about.

21% of people deny the Holocaust took place.
33% view the current cost of living crisis as a deliberate government plot to control the public.
24% of people believe Princess Diana was assassinated rather than dying in a tragic car accident.

Honestly there is a surprising number of complete fuckwits out there.

The problem is that the undoubted fact that most conspiracy theories are total bollocks does not change the fact that nevertheless some may well be true. The deaths of David Kelly and Epstein, for instance. Or the attempted killing of Trump.