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Do you do these things for your guests?

337 replies

Loyaltotheoil · 27/01/2026 22:59

Hi there! Just wondering, if you were hosting guests (family or close friends) for a few days, would you do these things?

  • Hanging and folding their laundry
  • Baking things they requested aside from the 3 meals a day (for example making crepes or baking a cake if they requested it for a snack)
  • Buttering their toast, or would you just put everything on the table for them to do?

Thank you!

OP posts:
LBFseBrom · 28/01/2026 12:06

No and I doubt anyone would want me messing about with their laundry. I wouldn't like it.

People butter their own toast, I've never heard of anyone having it buttered for them except young children.

I might bake something they liked if I was baking anyway.

katepilar · 28/01/2026 12:08

JustGiveMeReason · 28/01/2026 00:32

I'm completely confused as to why you haven't just laughed at these requests.

You can't be serious that his mother actually texts them to you?
My reply would be - if you (MiL) want to treat him like a 3 year old, then I suggest he comes back and lives with you. Whilst he is under this roof he is expected to behave like an adult.

Because its shocking and intimidating. I wonder what you would actually do if you found yourself in OPs situation and not behind a keybord.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 28/01/2026 12:08

FastFood · 28/01/2026 11:52

I can't imagine a situation where I would butter someone's toast. Maybe if they're 5yo and / or have a depleted supply of functioning hands or fingers, I would consider it.

If I was serving up beans and toast for everyone, I would probably ask if they wanted it buttered and butter for them

ThreeTescoBags · 28/01/2026 12:14

SheilaFentiman · 27/01/2026 23:29

Butter his toast???

Is BIL the King? I understand Chucky III doesn’t know how to squeeze his own toothpaste, and this seems a similar level of ridiculousness

😂

DD(8) 'mummy, please will you do x?' (insert ridiculous thing here e.g rub my foot, lift my cup to my mouth)

Me 'no, you are not the king!'

This is a daily interaction in our house

RisingSunn · 28/01/2026 12:15

I would be texting “obviously this is a joke” and be carrying on with my day.

In fact OP you are being far too passive and if anyone disrespected me in my home - they would have 45 minutes to pack their stuff and leave. BIL or no BIL.

Cherrytree86 · 28/01/2026 12:16

He is a GUEST, OP! Buttering his toast is the least you can do. It takes seconds.

Pushmepullu · 28/01/2026 12:19

OP, I’m going to hazard a guess and say you come from a non-British culture? Please don’t let this man and his mother bully you by playing the obligation game.Stop doing these things for him. Your husband should be telling him enough is enough, but I’m guessing your husband is scared of him? When his mother contacts you, don’t read the message or pick up. He is not your child. When you do have your baby he is likely to start complaining that it makes too much noise, what will you do then?

Francestein · 28/01/2026 12:19

No, no and HELL NO! Tell him you’re not his fucking butler.

diddl · 28/01/2026 12:25

I mean jus because he expects it it doesn't mean it has to happen.

But it seem to have done it without much question.

Does your husband expect the same?

FeedingPidgeons · 28/01/2026 12:28

Loyaltotheoil · 28/01/2026 00:02

He asks through his mum, so for example his mum would text me “BIL said he wants pancakes”

What the ever loving fuck did I just read.

How did you not injure yourself from hysterical laughter?

He got his mother to ask for him.
He got his mother to ask for him.

Sorry OP that's the most hilarious thing I ever heard.

Christmasinmecar · 28/01/2026 12:29

Loyaltotheoil · 27/01/2026 23:12

Thank you everyone.

my brother in law expects me to make him pancakes (heavily pregnant and tired too!), and iron, hang his clothes and fold them up in piles (I had thrown his clothes in the wash with ours). He also expects me to butter his toast, one time I did it he complained there was too much butter and requested I take some off, I feel like a massive fool now.

Edited

He expects?? Hope you are charging for services rendered otherwise he can jog off.

Loyaltotheoil · 28/01/2026 12:29

RosesAndHellebores · 28/01/2026 11:01

This has to be cultural and there seems to be evidence that you went along with their ways when living with them for eight months. I am wondering if that was rent free? Do you work @Loyaltotheoil.

To me it sounds inapproproate and not something I woukd expect. When bil fell out with his papa, why was there an assumption you and you and your DH would put him up? Do you live independently in a property for which you have saved up and bought or rent through the open market. If not, arrangements do tend to come with strings attached

When MIL's texts were received, I'd have automatically written back:

The butter dish is on the table and he has a butter knife - please ask him to make sure he does not leave crumbs in the butter.

His laundry is his responsibility; if he doesn't want to deal with it, this drycleaner also does shirts/general laundry.

If he wants pancakes/cake, there is a nice cafe down the road. I am already providing three meals.

If, he has any further requests, please ask him to speak to me directly, as he is living under our roof, where our domestic practices apply. If he wants more, there are half a dozen estate agents in town who deal with rentals.

See you soon, love op.

You are right that it is cultural, they’re south Asian although I’m not.

I paid rent for the 8 months I stayed there and worked, we now live in a private accommodation that my husband and I pay for.

They’ve treated me so horrendously when I lived there that I don’t know what is normal or cheeky behaviour anymore, and sometimes I wonder if my anger is justified or if it’s just influenced by past behaviour.

BIL would ask me to make his lunch, butter his toast, make him tea, all while telling me I didn’t have a seat at their table (figuratively), so when I see that behaviour replicated when he’s in my house, I really struggle to understand if it’s normal now that he’s a guest or if it’s just a continuity of the way he saw me back then.

My other sister in law is very much loved (other brother’s sister, not that brother), and they have all treated her very nicely, although she is from a completely different cultural background as well, BIL buys her stuffed toys, sweets, hangs out with her, is very kind to her in general.

They have explicitly told her they were only happy with her, that they loved her, and that they didn’t want my marriage to their son to ever happen, despite me doing as much as I could to be helpful.

MIL would constantly pressure me to move, and when I am about to move she’d beg my husband not to, that she needs the financial help (rent) and the domestic help around the house, and it would happen again and again, daily berating.

OP posts:
DrPrunesqualer · 28/01/2026 12:33

No one ever washes their clothes when they come to stay. If they needed to i wouldnt be doing it for them
Guests don’t ask for me to bake or make them something special although I’d bake in advance anyway.

No to buttering their toast
Breakfast is always just a help yourself

Don’t entertain this entitlement OP

PinkyFlamingo · 28/01/2026 12:33

Why on earth are you pandering to this man? Making him pancakes FFS.

FeedingPidgeons · 28/01/2026 12:35

Im sorry OP that is shit.

But you need to take back control and accept that they will never like you. Stop trying. They don't respect you and all your efforts to appease them just cement their view of you. A lesser being. Only useful as a domestic appliance.

Number one, this guy has to stop treating you like shit. It's your house and he's behaving like you are shit on his shoe.

If he can't do that, he can leave. Know your worth.

If your H won't support you, you have a problem.

Loyaltotheoil · 28/01/2026 12:35

BillieWiper · 28/01/2026 11:01

I wouldn't necessarily expect them to do any laundry. Most people just bring enough clothes for their stay? I've never had one ask to use washing machine. So no I wouldn't do anything with their laundry not would I expect there to be any.

I wouldn't butter someone else's toast as I don't know how much they like.

I would make a cake but only because I like doing it. But I'd probably already done so in anticipation for a guest staying. So if they requested a second one I'd be a bit surprised.

Crepes? Well pancakes yeah. I wouldn't mind that being one of our meals but not as an additional snack. I'd tell them they can make their own as addition to meals but I wouldn't exactly encourage it. As I don't really like people cooking in my kitchen, without them just being my helper, iyswim.

thank you, for context I would have already made a cake for example but, but the next day he’d ask me to make more

OP posts:
SheilaFentiman · 28/01/2026 12:37

Loyaltotheoil · 28/01/2026 12:35

thank you, for context I would have already made a cake for example but, but the next day he’d ask me to make more

OP, where the fuck is your DH in all of this berating and belittlement of his wife by his family?

ETA I assure you that your anger is justified now, as well as in the past.

DeanElderberry · 28/01/2026 12:37

My toast strategy for guests is to give them bread and show them the toaster and the butter dish and let them decide do they want hot-buttered or crisped in the toast rack.

Tastes vary, I let them choose which they prefer.

MadAsAMongoose · 28/01/2026 12:38

What does your DH think about this situation?

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 28/01/2026 12:38

Absolutely not and I’m an excellent host! I would also be mortified if a host did these things for me.

daisychain01 · 28/01/2026 12:39

Loyaltotheoil · 27/01/2026 23:12

Thank you everyone.

my brother in law expects me to make him pancakes (heavily pregnant and tired too!), and iron, hang his clothes and fold them up in piles (I had thrown his clothes in the wash with ours). He also expects me to butter his toast, one time I did it he complained there was too much butter and requested I take some off, I feel like a massive fool now.

Edited

You are NOT that man's skivvy!

just because he expects you to wait on him as his unpaid servant doesn't mean it's right, nor that you cannot refuse.

teaandtoastwouldbenice · 28/01/2026 12:39

I might butter the toast while it’s warm but otherwise no.

GrinchoftheNorth · 28/01/2026 12:40

I'd be telling him he wasn't invited for a royal visit. You're doing him a favour letting him stay under your roof, he needs to treat you with respect and pull his weight or find someone else to put him up. He's taking the absolute piss.

MyDeftDuck · 28/01/2026 12:40

Loyaltotheoil · 28/01/2026 12:35

thank you, for context I would have already made a cake for example but, but the next day he’d ask me to make more

FFS OP……Stop! Just stop dancing to his tune! You are married to your husband NOT his brother! Find your voice and use it!

BillieWiper · 28/01/2026 12:42

Loyaltotheoil · 28/01/2026 12:35

thank you, for context I would have already made a cake for example but, but the next day he’d ask me to make more

Haha, I guess it's a compliment. But you must learn the art of saying No.
If he wants things to eat he can go out and get them or order a delivery.

To be honest a decent guest shouldn't be asking anything of you. They should just graciously accept whatever level of hospitality you offer. And offer to help in any way possible as well. Not just sit there.

Be that simply a camp bed and some bedding, or three from scratch meals a day plus bloody butler service and being carried around on a sedan chair by four supermodels.

You don't ask for extra things that cause work for the host. That is rude.