Anthony Joshua Accident *MNHQ ADDING CONTENT WARNING FOR INJURY*

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I heard about this via X (twitter) and unfortunately ended up seeing the unblurred version of the incident which was awful and my heart goes out to the mothers/fathers/families of those boys.

It has come to light that I had spoken to the young lad that was the friend. I cant stop feeling this strange sadness, not only was I exposed to a clip that i didnt realise contained unblurred graphic footage of two deceased men. But the sad part, and i did cry, was that i had spoken to one of them as he owns one of the gyms I have been to in London. I didn't agree with his views entirely when we spoke but it just breaks my heart to know that the young man had so so much success ahead of him and when we did speak, I couldnt have imagined that his life would be cut so short. Its strange. A strange feeling.

It just saddens me. I cried. But the image of these two young men is just engrained in my head. Its brutal and whats so strange is their social media profiles are still “alive” still have comments, interactions, stories. Im just quite saddened by it.

"young lad" "young man" "the friend" "one guy" "The Asian lad" "The one I spoke to" "this guy"

OP you had a few conversations 6 months ago and apparently don't even know their name.

They were Sina Ghami and Latif "Latz" Ayodele by the way.

I’m aware I also think from the numerous social media posts people are aware.

I’m not here to argue. I think it’s clear that I’m just shocked as I have frequented that particular gym and spoken with the young man. It’s a life taken very soon. People are allowed to be sad. I think the issue with Mumsnet is there are individuals who create a situation out of nothing. The very sad and unfortunate reality is that their families have more than likely discovered the news via social media. I think you might be making an issue here and there is no reason to. I’m shocked. It’s a tragic loss of a young life who had great success ahead of him. It’s heartbreaking and no one is making anything about themselves.

So why not use their names instead of calling him lad, man or guy?

Was there really any need to post such graphic details of the accident OP? This thread is so wrong on so many levels.

You are making it about you. It doesn’t matter that you and a conversation with one of them. He’d have spoke to thousands of people in his life. His family and friends will grieve him, you won’t. If you were bothered, you wouldn’t be able to post in the weird claim to fame way that you are. Grief thief. Associating yourself with a terrible incident when you aren’t anything to do with it for attention is sick.

The repeated message in almost every single post of yours that you spoke to him a few times and that you've seen a video of what happened and feel you 'know him' ans what he was about is coming over more like you want clout and/or paying by the press to talk rather than real concern.

Probably best to out the glass of whatever down and get some shut eye.

Oof, I’m not sure about some of the comments here.

I think terrible tragedies like this always seem so far removed (unless you’re desperately unlucky).

When you have had even the vaguest connection with someone who dies suddenly and traumatically, it can make it all seem closer to home. And that can be far more shocking. It’s just human nature.

I think that’s all OP is trying to say. Anyone who saw the news story (even without the graphic video) would probably have thought it was quite a shock. Anthony Joshua was boxing just a few short days ago and now he’s suddenly involved in a big car smash. It seems weirdly out of the blue (even though that doesn’t really make much sense as most accidents are sudden!)

I’ve never been in the situation that OP is describing but I can well imagine it feels quite jarring that a young, healthy, fit man that she’d exchanged pleasantries with a few times is suddenly gone. It does make the news story feel more personal even though it’s not grief or anything even close to it.

Grief vultures really irritate me but I don’t think that’s what OP is doing.

It’s exactly what OP is doing. It’s awful.

I'm sorry for your loss op 😔

Apparently was a popped tyre and the roads are bad where they were

I presume this is sarcasm? This is not OPs loss. She is not family or a friend of the deceased. She's barely even an acquaintance. Just someone who used a gym that one of the deceased owned and had a couple of conversations with.

I am not making the same mistake as I did when I saw the Charlie Kirk video and i’m staying well away from X or any videos. Wishing AJ a full recovery, can’t imagine how difficult this is for him, also the driver who I imagine is going to have to live with this on his conscience if reports of dangerous overtaking and speeding are correct. If you don’t want to see any graphic videos, stay well away.

Or "baby"!!

That really got my eyes rolling uncontrollably.

Well it has clearly upset her enough post on here so have some sympathy in her mourning.
It's called having a heart and I suggest using yours as lack of use makes you cold and icy.

It was sarcasm.... surely

I agree also that there was no need for OP to list the extent of injuries to the deceased. I don’t understand the need to do this.

you spoke to him a few times and you you didnt even get to know anything him by the sounds of it. He wasn’t Asian he was Iranian.

I Knew Sina, the iranian crowd our age is quite small in london and we all mixed in tbe same circles-he was a great guy, so humble and kind hearted and would do anything to help anyone if he could. He had so much more life to live and its been a hard one to grasp.

i’m absoutely heart broken and worried for his mum, it was just them 2, he had no siblings and she adored him and he worshipped his mum and would do anything for her.

a few on my insta posting about the guy who passed then next clip they in the club

Agreed. MN can be really odd about whether you're "entitled" to feel affected by something. I've often seen this with discussions of tragedies on here where someone says they are shocked as they were at the same location recently and the response is: "but you weren't at the time - stop making this about you".

The world is a big place so when shocking incidents happen involving places/people we know, however tenuously, it suddenly makes it all more real and heightens the impact.

I just don’t read it like that tbh.

I don’t believe for a second that people wouldn’t feel more shocked about hearing of someone’s death if they’d met and spoken to them.

Scenario 1: Random 26-yr-old died in a plane crash, reported on the news.

Scenario 2: Toby from the local cafe, who you quite often have a chat with while waiting for your latte, died in a plane crash.

Almost universally people would feel more shocked by the second scenario, because it feels closer to home, even though Toby was still essentially a stranger.

I think people are being very disingenuous in pretending they wouldn’t feel quite shocked about the death of a young man that they occasionally exchanged pleasantries with.

i think OP’s response is fairly common, even if people don’t want to admit it on here tonight.

People need to stop looking at videos unless you are happy for you or your loved ones to have their deaths public.

Why on earth is the OP discussing injuries, it’s so distasteful!

TFF

There wasn't any babies were there