Does anyone still support this Labour government?

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I know NO ONE in real life who still sticks up for them (apart from my mother, and she would support Labour even if KS owned up to creating Covid). Apart from that, all quiet on the western front.

I haven’t seen any support on here, or SM for weeks now.

Is it my algorithm bubble, or are people genuinely disappointed with them? I don’t think it can be the algorithms though, as until a few weeks ago there were still words of support popping up.

For full disclosure I think this government is a total shitshow intent on dismantling British culture, and taxing the private sector to death in order to pay for the public sector. With no long term plan once the private sector is squeezed totally dry. I am BEYOND disappointed with them.

Agreed
What biased media must people be watching to not realise this
Gbeebies I assume

The fact that you genuinely believe this, despite so much evidence to the contrary speaks volumes

He taps into people’s fear of those that aren’t like them.
In General terms “foreigners” are only those with brown or black skin aren’t they?
Europeans from the “right” countries as well as those from USA, NZ and Australia are seen as being acceptable foreigners.

”Most” people in the UK don’t agree with your comments and a lot of people are very concerned about him and Reform.

Quite.

And Farage has dragged Labour kicking and screaming to actually face the immigration issue - I don’t say address, as despite Mahmood’s rhetoric, the Labour back benches will not permit any meaningful action.

The main problem the political parties have to solve is that JoeNormal thinks the Tories are beholden to shareholders who want to trouser every last half penny Joe has earned them (which is close enough to the truth), and Labour want to spaff every last penny Joe has paid in tax on his quite ordinary earnings on lost causes (which is also fairly accurate).

So Reform tiptoe their way between the extremes and sound reasonable to most ordinary people who set their alarm clock and go to work each morning. Reform appeals to tradespeople. The builders, motor engineers, agricultural contractor, carpenters, kitchen fitters, electricians, plumbers and small business folk who took the risk of going self employed, and who account for most of the 70% of SMEs who employ 60% of the population. If they are not on your side, you are toast politically. They expect to pay tax for the NHS and to pay their parents' pensions; they do not want to pay tax for non-contributors who stepped off a rubber dinghy 10 hours ago.

You might think Joe's not important, as he didn't go to university and isn't politically vocal. But Joe has a vote and he is going to vote for Nigel next time he's given an opportunity. All the polls are telling you this. You just don't want to hear his voice.

Yes, my Husband and I.

I don’t know anyone that thinks this is a good government. In work or socially.

This. And it’s especially hard for Labour, with a Tory-owned media, who will never be on their side.

Ah, so we're clear then that you don't care what the government actually does as long as they use the word 'foreigner' a lot?

This^^ is the sneery attitude from the left which is basically rolling the red carpet out for Farage.

You think you’re so clever but you literally cannot see the nose on your face. As you cut it off to spite it.

Me. They're a Labour government and won’t please everyone. Give them a chance after 13 years of Tory misrule.

He taps into people’s fear of those that aren’t like them.

He taps into people’s fear of what they see around them.
And yes, people’s fear of those that aren’t like them. Those that don’t share their values. People that, they don’t know how they will behave because they are from a totally different culture where women are fair game and pets are meaningless etc.
People are afraid of that and they’re allowed to be, actually. If Labour acknowledged this in any small way then maybe they wouldn’t be getting smashed in the polls by Reform.

In General terms “foreigners” are only those with brown or black skin aren’t they?

No. That’s just daft and you’re the only one that’s said it.

Europeans from the “right” countries as well as those from USA, NZ and Australia are seen as being acceptable foreigners.

Foreigners from countries more aligned with our culture are absolutely seen as being more ‘acceptable’ because people can identify more with them. There’s nothing wrong with that.

”Most” people in the UK don’t agree with your comments and a lot of people are very concerned about him and Reform.

You can say this until you’re blue in the face but the polls aren’t lying.

I fear you are all slightly blinkered. I have no attitude to foreigners or migrants. As long as they are here to work, and improve their lot without claiming benefits, I welcome them. I have been both emigrant and immigrant in two countries. My point is that neither of the big parties is listening to the little people who will elect them or not. The little voices do not want to pay for passengers, and they do not dislike the world they grew up in for the most part. Reform appeals to people who are generally happy to stick with the status quo. I don't think politicians have grasped this.

I think Farage is a salesman, and totally untrustworthy, but he's plausible.

Until both Labour and Tory parties really start to dig very deep into what is important to them philosophically, Reform are likely to storm to victory. I predict that it will be catastrophic, because most of those elected will never have organised or planned anything bigger than a pub tombola. I am terrified at the prospect, but health issues make relocation very tricky for us.

He doesn’t and he isn’t. Everything he says is a twisting of the truth.

Of course they are now claiming they were not aware of his views. Are they Liars or highly inept?

As he was originally granted citizenship under the previous Conservative government, you'd have to ask the same question of them.

I’d expect them to be asking that question from the start though. They can’t blame the conservatives after they’ve supported him for 18 months and made his return here a ‘top priority.’

I hear you @cardibach, I don't plan on voting for him either. But you need to acknowledge that he does have the best read on the financial and political pulse and pressure points that will drive most votes at the next election. Reform is going to win a lot of elections. I would go as far as saying a majority. And then we all have to survive a bunch of idiots for five more years. We have had too many years of idiocy already.

If this happens, we really shall consider leaving the UK to buy citizenship elsewhere.

No-one is blaming the Conservatives. The point I was making was that as the PP stated the current government are either liars or highly inept for being (or claiming to be) unaware of the tweets, then you'd have to consider the previous government to be the same. I'd certainly hope that the social media history of a controversial figure was considered before offering them citizenship in the first place, just as I'd hope the current government did the same, before their recent campaign to have him returned to the UK. Neither of which appears to have happened.

I don't fancy it though. But at 70, it is still an option. We have both worked overseas and enjoyed the experience.

I am so so fed up with idiotic ideology. Plain boring competence at filling potholes in roads and getting NHS appointment letters delivered before the appointment would be a big step up.

Same here if reform get in

Roads round here are in the best condition they’ve been in for the past 14 years, pot holes filled, resurfaced, lines painted (you could hardly see them before at night), new cats eyes.

NHS IT systems need an overhaul and some money investing. Again nothing has been done for many years.

Interesting @sleepwouldbenice . Do you think we would be choosing the same countries? I don't want to live in a socialist economy or a reform economy.

@BurntBroccoli roads round me are crumbling. There are at least six significant potholes I drive around within 100 yards of my house. But this is a local issue,.

The conservatives gave him citizenship, clearly without doing due diligence before they did.
The job of the foreign Office (and government) is to ensure the wellbeing of British citizens in trouble abroad. They have done their job and brought a British citizen safely home. I'm glad they did because it shows they would do the same for you or I if we needed help.

I don't support his sending of those messages, but they should have come to light before the conservative government- including Philp gave British citizenship to him. I do blame the conservatives.