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Does anyone still support this Labour government?

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PutTheCakeDOWN · 28/12/2025 12:24

I know NO ONE in real life who still sticks up for them (apart from my mother, and she would support Labour even if KS owned up to creating Covid). Apart from that, all quiet on the western front.

I haven’t seen any support on here, or SM for weeks now.

Is it my algorithm bubble, or are people genuinely disappointed with them? I don’t think it can be the algorithms though, as until a few weeks ago there were still words of support popping up.

For full disclosure I think this government is a total shitshow intent on dismantling British culture, and taxing the private sector to death in order to pay for the public sector. With no long term plan once the private sector is squeezed totally dry. I am BEYOND disappointed with them.

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StarsTwinklingPomanders · 29/12/2025 17:42

@beigeybeige and yet that's exactly why many voted us out of a bloated and yet shadowy government hundreds of miles away.

Where billions goes missing in black holes and as tony benn said whose got the power and how do we get rid of them .

Freud2 · 29/12/2025 17:43

RafaistheKingofClay · 28/12/2025 12:56

They have got us back into Erasmus, are looking at working with rather than against the EU, have sped up and increased deportations of illegal migrants, scrapped the pointless and expensive Rwanda plan, they are going after the people who defrauded the Covid payments scheme to get the money back, they are pulling a huge number of children and families out of poverty which will have longer term implications on health and therefore the economy.

I believe they scrapped the ban on onshore wind turbines with possibly a few more actions that encouraged investment in green renewables. They have given water regulators more powers to deal with the water companies but I’m not sure how much that has had an effect yet.

Personally, I’m a big fan of the number of potholes that have been fixed here and some of the improvements to local bus services that have been made.

They aren’t perfect and more could have been done - Starmer has a huge majority and could be less cautious and just get on with a few things - but it’s a damn sight more that the Tories did in 14 years. They are being held to a much higher standard.

The Rwanda scheme was never fully implemented as Starmer and his human rights cronies held in up at every stage with legal loopholes!

Freud2 · 29/12/2025 17:46

Allseeingallknowing · 29/12/2025 16:50

Er….which things in your list have actually improved? They’ve failed in immigration, doctors appointments, waiting list coming down etc. What about their failure to implement welfare cuts? What have they succeeded in? What about their U-turns? How can you have confidence in them?

Edited

They'll soon run out of everyone's money.

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TheCompactPussycat · 29/12/2025 18:07

EasternStandard · 29/12/2025 17:38

Ok so you said @HermioneWeasleywas a list of populist policies. What did she say in the job creation point that led to that conclusion?

Oh I see. You're labouring under a misapprehension which is why you keep referring back to job creation. If you care to re-read my original post, you'll see I said "Most of her views".

CurlewKate · 29/12/2025 18:08

Freud2 · 29/12/2025 17:41

If they get more left wing well be in Corbyn country!

In what way?

EasternStandard · 29/12/2025 18:15

TheCompactPussycat · 29/12/2025 18:07

Oh I see. You're labouring under a misapprehension which is why you keep referring back to job creation. If you care to re-read my original post, you'll see I said "Most of her views".

Ok so not that one then?

I asked which one did you mean so you could specify. It’s a bit vague and meaningless.

EmmaOvary · 29/12/2025 18:25

Friendlygingercat · 28/12/2025 15:26

Ive been a Tory voter all my life. Small state and anti benefits. Very much to the right of the party. I voted Reform in the last election. I dont agree with all their policies but I do with their hard line on immigration and cutting down on benefits. I would never have voted Labour in a month of sundays regardless of who the leader was. Taxing working people to pay for the feckless and johhny foreigner is never going to win my vote, nor are all these expensive green schemes and woke tomfoolery.

Christ.

Freud2 · 29/12/2025 18:27

CurlewKate · 29/12/2025 18:08

In what way?

Robbing the private sector to pay for the unproductive public sector for one.

sleepwouldbenice · 29/12/2025 18:29

Freud2 · 29/12/2025 17:28

Absolutely right. Nigel Farage also always answers questions that are posed to him unlike other politicians. He is straight talking, and I think, a brave politician.

Hilarious

cardibach · 29/12/2025 18:33

EasternStandard · 29/12/2025 17:08

Ok so is job creation populist or not?

It sounds a bit vague and broad, so much so it loses meaning.

Job creation isn’t a policy. It’s a policy goal. How you try to achieve it will vary depending on where you stand on the political spectrum.
I’d say just banging on about job creation with no clear plan, or a plan so simple it’s patently obviously fatuous, is populist - it suggests there’s an easy solution to the complex problem of growth. Having a policy for job creation (whether a particular person agrees with it or not, whether it’s successful or not) isn’t populist.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 29/12/2025 18:34

Freud2 · Today 17:28
Absolutely right. Nigel Farage also always answers questions that are posed to him unlike other politicians. He is straight talking, and I think, a brave politician

😂😂😂😂😂

cardibach · 29/12/2025 18:36

Freud2 · 29/12/2025 17:32

Obviously going by the the last 100 polls - a lot of people disagree with you!

People have been polled on their opinion of the Rwanda plan? Over 100 t8nes? Recently?
I doubt it.

cardibach · 29/12/2025 18:37

Freud2 · 29/12/2025 17:41

If they get more left wing well be in Corbyn country!

They are barely to the left of centre. Corbyn is much further left, but even then would be an unremarkable social democratic in much of Northern Europe/Scandinavia.

EasternStandard · 29/12/2025 18:37

cardibach · 29/12/2025 18:33

Job creation isn’t a policy. It’s a policy goal. How you try to achieve it will vary depending on where you stand on the political spectrum.
I’d say just banging on about job creation with no clear plan, or a plan so simple it’s patently obviously fatuous, is populist - it suggests there’s an easy solution to the complex problem of growth. Having a policy for job creation (whether a particular person agrees with it or not, whether it’s successful or not) isn’t populist.

If you follow the context you’ll see the pp said @HermioneWeasleylist was populist. On asking they couldn’t say which on the list actually was so I picked one which now turns out doesn’t meet the criteria for populist after all.

It doesn’t make sense after you have added to it.

cardibach · 29/12/2025 18:41

Freud2 · 29/12/2025 17:43

The Rwanda scheme was never fully implemented as Starmer and his human rights cronies held in up at every stage with legal loopholes!

Were you aware of the details? It was strictly number limited and allowed for an equal number of more vulnerable (and therefore more expensive to support and less likely to be able to fund themselves) refugees from Rwanda to come here. It was also repeatedly judged illegal and was therefore unlikely to ever have been implemented whoever was in power. And it was horrifically expensive.
I’m constantly stunned anyone thinks it was viable, never mind the answer to a complex problem. It’s another example of populist nonsense.

EasternStandard · 29/12/2025 18:42

cardibach · 29/12/2025 18:41

Were you aware of the details? It was strictly number limited and allowed for an equal number of more vulnerable (and therefore more expensive to support and less likely to be able to fund themselves) refugees from Rwanda to come here. It was also repeatedly judged illegal and was therefore unlikely to ever have been implemented whoever was in power. And it was horrifically expensive.
I’m constantly stunned anyone thinks it was viable, never mind the answer to a complex problem. It’s another example of populist nonsense.

The court decision wasn’t an issue, it could go ahead.

How’s smash the gangs and one in one out going?

cardibach · 29/12/2025 18:43

Freud2 · 29/12/2025 18:27

Robbing the private sector to pay for the unproductive public sector for one.

Unproductive? In what way? Sure, education makes no profit but the private sector would struggle if it had to educate all its workers from age 5. Likewise if it had to pay for their lifelong health care.
The public sector isn’t supposed to be profitable. It enables profit though.

cardibach · 29/12/2025 18:44

EasternStandard · 29/12/2025 18:37

If you follow the context you’ll see the pp said @HermioneWeasleylist was populist. On asking they couldn’t say which on the list actually was so I picked one which now turns out doesn’t meet the criteria for populist after all.

It doesn’t make sense after you have added to it.

Edited

I didn’t edit the post. What do you mean ‘added to it’?

edit: I’ve edited this one to show you how it looks when someone edits.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 29/12/2025 18:45

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 29/12/2025 18:34

Freud2 · Today 17:28
Absolutely right. Nigel Farage also always answers questions that are posed to him unlike other politicians. He is straight talking, and I think, a brave politician

😂😂😂😂😂

I’m no admirer of Farage. In fact I think he’s a charlatan.

But if you’re going to laugh uproariously at Farage’s willingness to answer questions - fair enough - I think it’s also reasonable to observe how atrociously evasive and frankly dishonest Starmer is with his answers to questions.

cardibach · 29/12/2025 18:45

EasternStandard · 29/12/2025 18:37

If you follow the context you’ll see the pp said @HermioneWeasleylist was populist. On asking they couldn’t say which on the list actually was so I picked one which now turns out doesn’t meet the criteria for populist after all.

It doesn’t make sense after you have added to it.

Edited

I was answering your question.

EasternStandard · 29/12/2025 18:46

cardibach · 29/12/2025 18:44

I didn’t edit the post. What do you mean ‘added to it’?

edit: I’ve edited this one to show you how it looks when someone edits.

Edited

Added your input of course. Follow back for context, which you’ve missed.

cardibach · 29/12/2025 18:46

EasternStandard · 29/12/2025 18:42

The court decision wasn’t an issue, it could go ahead.

How’s smash the gangs and one in one out going?

Gangs might take a little while, don’t you think?
The one-in-one out policy has started and will gradually increase as far as I understand it.

cardibach · 29/12/2025 18:47

EasternStandard · 29/12/2025 18:46

Added your input of course. Follow back for context, which you’ve missed.

I wasn’t answering context. I was answering your question, whoch didn’t need context to be answered.

Ukholidaysaregreat · 29/12/2025 18:47

I think the Labour government are doing a good job. They inherited a shit show. The Tories have been running us into the ground since Thatcher in the 80s. We have Brexited which has not benefited us. They are now building houses (which we desperately need) supporting and promoting the NHS and being a steady handy with the economy. I have no idea why the media is bashing them so much. Except that much of the media is funded by millionaires with right wing bias.

EasternStandard · 29/12/2025 18:48

cardibach · 29/12/2025 18:47

I wasn’t answering context. I was answering your question, whoch didn’t need context to be answered.

It does to make sense. It was in relation to some posts up thread, specifically @HermioneWeasleylist and what qualified on there as populist. Nothing so far.