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Labour isn't working - Thread 24

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TheNuthatch · 22/12/2025 07:42

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙* *

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Julen7 · 01/01/2026 12:08

EasternStandard · 01/01/2026 11:56

I think fewer and fewer can even stomach listening to them or watching their statements anymore. It’s pretty bad when the best course is just blocking out the gov.

Really enjoyed the break from all their batshittery over Xmas although it will start up again next week I guess.

Parsley4321 · 01/01/2026 13:12

Just saw my two friends yesterday one down from royalty and the other not too shabby either both still working and earning well both 70 when I told them about making tax digital obligations £50k turnover this year £30k next £20k next they both said that’s it March 31st stop work and that’s that ! I have looked at my figures and said I need to cut my turnover by 50% and be more creative and less full steam ahead this stupid government shd be encouraging innovation and enterprise. As a side note much more cash around

justasking111 · 01/01/2026 14:15

My cleaner has cancelled commercial contracting. It's cash only now for a favoured few.

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Parsley4321 · 01/01/2026 15:28

@justasking111 my builder too

Messier61 · 01/01/2026 17:23

FT

The number of irregular migrants arriving in the UK by small boats jumped by 13 per cent in 2025 to more than 41,000, heaping pressure on Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer’s vow to “smash the gangs” trafficking people from France.

The annual total of 41,472, barring any late revisions to Home Office data for the final days of last year, is the second-highest on record, surpassed only in 2022 when almost 46,000 people crossed the English Channel.

Irregular migration has surged up the political agenda in recent months, propelling Nigel Farage’s populist Reform UK party to the top of national opinion polls and intensifying scrutiny of Labour’s attempts to toughen its stance on immigration and crack down on people smugglers.

TheNuthatch · 01/01/2026 18:15

Stilish · 01/01/2026 16:16

‘Surging employment costs under Labour have punched the biggest hole in corporate profits in more than four decades.’

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/01/01/profitability-falls-lowest-level-since-1982-labour/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_fb_photo_lowest-level-since-1982-labour/

If only there was some way this could have been foreseen 🤔

Colour me surprised!
Labour are probably celebrating that tbf. They are that stupid.

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TheNuthatch · 01/01/2026 18:17

Messier61 · 01/01/2026 17:23

FT

The number of irregular migrants arriving in the UK by small boats jumped by 13 per cent in 2025 to more than 41,000, heaping pressure on Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer’s vow to “smash the gangs” trafficking people from France.

The annual total of 41,472, barring any late revisions to Home Office data for the final days of last year, is the second-highest on record, surpassed only in 2022 when almost 46,000 people crossed the English Channel.

Irregular migration has surged up the political agenda in recent months, propelling Nigel Farage’s populist Reform UK party to the top of national opinion polls and intensifying scrutiny of Labour’s attempts to toughen its stance on immigration and crack down on people smugglers.

Go on Keir! Smash those gangs 🙄🙈

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Messier61 · 01/01/2026 20:47

TheNuthatch · 01/01/2026 18:17

Go on Keir! Smash those gangs 🙄🙈

LOL.

Starmer - what a total mug.

CambridgeSingers · 01/01/2026 22:41

And here’s more of the same - we’re gong to be treated to an attack on EHCPs with some nice rhetoric about being used to fund falconry, skiing and horse riding…that’s not labour being divisive at all is it? so glad they’re taking a new more inclusive tone…

Parents’ groups vow to fight plans to curb Send support rights

www.thetimes.com/article/9641521e-4272-49f5-945e-2f99d200f973?shareToken=651948b4318cc7800216b50d43de5da4

Legolava · 01/01/2026 23:23

CambridgeSingers · 01/01/2026 22:41

And here’s more of the same - we’re gong to be treated to an attack on EHCPs with some nice rhetoric about being used to fund falconry, skiing and horse riding…that’s not labour being divisive at all is it? so glad they’re taking a new more inclusive tone…

Parents’ groups vow to fight plans to curb Send support rights

www.thetimes.com/article/9641521e-4272-49f5-945e-2f99d200f973?shareToken=651948b4318cc7800216b50d43de5da4

To be honest, Labour voters and those who support VAT on school fees are getting are getting the outcomes they deserve. I am just angry that vulnerable children are the collateral damage.

The VAT on school fees was a warning shot. It was divisive and spiteful. The rich haven’t suffered. They can afford it. All it’s done is keep working class families where they belong because their parents were just about affording it. Many of these children will have been failed by state and have some form of SEND. It’s really sinister if you think about it. Keeping the classes where they belong - segregated. Truly horrific and dangerous politics.

When we had that visitor who voted Labour for their child’s EHCP. I hollow laughed. This has been floating around for a while now. Education is facing real terms cuts. Even more so after hidden gems in the budget. They are going to try and shortcut SEND acknowledgement to teachers. We do that anyway. It’s pointless in an underfunded system with not enough staff. Call me cynical but, an EHCP is a legal document which must be followed. There are actions you can take if it’s not. They don’t have the money to fund education even with VAT on school fees. It’s all being cut. By stripping these legal rights from children, then there is no protection if they don’t have a suitable education. I’d argue that the ballooning rise in SEND is partly because we don’t have an education system for for purpose and child development. Combined with the fact that parents can’t parent now and there is huge state dependency. I give you toothbrushing in schools.

How can you strip away the legal rights of vulnerable children and their right to access a suitable education? Tell other people they get nice things and we need to punish them for it and take it away. Nasty, nasty, nasty. What a truly nasty “party source.” People say the Tories are the nasty party. Well, here are Labour trying to turn people against disabled children to warrant taking legal protections away in the form of an EHCP. Despicable.

Messier61 · 02/01/2026 05:53

Legolava · 01/01/2026 23:23

To be honest, Labour voters and those who support VAT on school fees are getting are getting the outcomes they deserve. I am just angry that vulnerable children are the collateral damage.

The VAT on school fees was a warning shot. It was divisive and spiteful. The rich haven’t suffered. They can afford it. All it’s done is keep working class families where they belong because their parents were just about affording it. Many of these children will have been failed by state and have some form of SEND. It’s really sinister if you think about it. Keeping the classes where they belong - segregated. Truly horrific and dangerous politics.

When we had that visitor who voted Labour for their child’s EHCP. I hollow laughed. This has been floating around for a while now. Education is facing real terms cuts. Even more so after hidden gems in the budget. They are going to try and shortcut SEND acknowledgement to teachers. We do that anyway. It’s pointless in an underfunded system with not enough staff. Call me cynical but, an EHCP is a legal document which must be followed. There are actions you can take if it’s not. They don’t have the money to fund education even with VAT on school fees. It’s all being cut. By stripping these legal rights from children, then there is no protection if they don’t have a suitable education. I’d argue that the ballooning rise in SEND is partly because we don’t have an education system for for purpose and child development. Combined with the fact that parents can’t parent now and there is huge state dependency. I give you toothbrushing in schools.

How can you strip away the legal rights of vulnerable children and their right to access a suitable education? Tell other people they get nice things and we need to punish them for it and take it away. Nasty, nasty, nasty. What a truly nasty “party source.” People say the Tories are the nasty party. Well, here are Labour trying to turn people against disabled children to warrant taking legal protections away in the form of an EHCP. Despicable.

Terrific post.

Bang on, and typical Labour - spiteful to their core. The smirking and the rhetoric. I will rejoice when they are individually or collectively ejected from office.

Messier61 · 02/01/2026 07:06

Reeves wants to take credit for successive IR cuts - let her take ownership of rising unemployment, too….

The Bank of England will slash interest rates to their lowest level in more than three years as Britain battles an unemployment crisis, a Swiss lender has claimed.

Rates will fall from the present level of 3.75pc to 2.75pc after the summer, according to Lombard Odier. The figure would be the Bank Rate’s lowest point since November 2022.

Such a drastic cut would benefit homeowners and businesses, who could borrow more to invest, and would be driven by ructions in the employment market.

Bill Papadakis, from Lombard Odier, said policymakers would be forced to act because of a “collapse in job vacancies to below pre-pandemic levels and a rising unemployment rate”.

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TheNuthatch · 02/01/2026 08:09

Messier61 · 02/01/2026 05:53

Terrific post.

Bang on, and typical Labour - spiteful to their core. The smirking and the rhetoric. I will rejoice when they are individually or collectively ejected from office.

Seconded
Excellent post @Legolava. Well said 👏

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EasternStandard · 02/01/2026 08:09

Messier61 · 02/01/2026 05:53

Terrific post.

Bang on, and typical Labour - spiteful to their core. The smirking and the rhetoric. I will rejoice when they are individually or collectively ejected from office.

Same

TheNuthatch · 02/01/2026 08:14

@Messier61
Reeves wants to take credit for successive IR cuts - let her take ownership of rising unemployment, too….

According to their supporters on here, there is no rising unemployment. Nothing to see here, its all a myth. They're trying to gaslight their way out of it.

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TheNuthatch · 02/01/2026 08:18

justasking111 · 01/01/2026 10:03

I watched the fireworks. Nearly fell off the sofa when they played LAND OF HOPE AND GLORY

I've just realised what you meant with this post. I hadn't seen the fireworks when I replied to you.

The display has been interpreted by many as anti-Reform. Not very sensible to piss off vast swathes of the population 5 months out from elections me thinks. Idiots.
Well done Khan.

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strawberrybubblegum · 02/01/2026 08:23

TheNuthatch · 02/01/2026 08:18

I've just realised what you meant with this post. I hadn't seen the fireworks when I replied to you.

The display has been interpreted by many as anti-Reform. Not very sensible to piss off vast swathes of the population 5 months out from elections me thinks. Idiots.
Well done Khan.

Isn't it just trying to stake an ownership claim on UK-ness? Similar to Kier draping himself in flags when the flags protests started?

I think they genuinely don't understand what the movement is about, and they're just reacting.

But I haven't seen the fireworks. Is there more to it?

TheNuthatch · 02/01/2026 08:36

strawberrybubblegum · 02/01/2026 08:23

Isn't it just trying to stake an ownership claim on UK-ness? Similar to Kier draping himself in flags when the flags protests started?

I think they genuinely don't understand what the movement is about, and they're just reacting.

But I haven't seen the fireworks. Is there more to it?

Edited

I don't know what the intention was, but I can see how its been received and interpreted by many.

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strawberrybubblegum · 02/01/2026 08:39

Oh, I see - did they play Land of Hope and Glory whilst displaying the whole world's flags - which came together to make the Union Flag.

Because actually the UK belongs equally to anyone in the whole world. Joyful unicorns.

I see.

TheNuthatch · 02/01/2026 08:41

@strawberrybubblegum

Sorry, just seen your edit.
Land of hope and glory is Reform's theme song so to speak. There were also EU stars and other things that I won't go into here.
It hasn't gone down well on SM. An apolitical display would have been more sensible imo.

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strawberrybubblegum · 02/01/2026 08:45

One thing I found incredibly concerning in that latest David Betz video shared on a previous thread was that he interpreted the 'raise the colours' campaign as being one side marking out territory - which is one of the steps on the way to civil war.

A state office putting up firework flags of every other country - and claiming the UK flag for those countries - is presumably a very similar intention to the 'raise the colours' campaign, but in the other direction.

strawberrybubblegum · 02/01/2026 08:47

TheNuthatch · 02/01/2026 08:41

@strawberrybubblegum

Sorry, just seen your edit.
Land of hope and glory is Reform's theme song so to speak. There were also EU stars and other things that I won't go into here.
It hasn't gone down well on SM. An apolitical display would have been more sensible imo.

Ah I didn't realise. I think I might have to watch the display!

Apolitical would certainly have been better.

Messier61 · 02/01/2026 08:51

The case of an alleged Egyptian extremist who was welcomed to Britain by Sir Keir Starmer became a “running joke” among Downing Street advisers, a former No 10 aide has revealed.

Paul Ovenden said the case of Alaa Abd el-Fattah was “a totem of the ceaseless sapping of time and energy by people obsessed with fringe issues” and demonstrated “the sheer weirdness of how Whitehall spends its time”.

Sir Keir Starmer welcomed the Egyptian activist, who labelled British people “dogs and monkeys” and called for Zionists to be killed, to Britain last month.

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Parsley4321 · 02/01/2026 08:55

@Legolava great post

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