Labour isn't working - Thread 23

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The dwindling party figures makes clear that even their own members can't stomach them now.

It was interesting to read that the plotting for Burnham includes getting him a seat before May in the potential areas of Gorton and Denton and Norwich South.

On the MRP electoral consensus polling Gorton and Denton is predicted to win over reform with current polling, with 24% vote share and reform snapping at the heels at 22.3%. Norwich South is expected to win with a vote share of 25.5% and Greens on...25.4%!

This isn't the sure win that I think they think it is.

Yeh, there are no 'safe' Labour seats now. As a pp said upthread, maybe Burnham should try London. Unless they think Burnham can cut through the hatred for Labour, and they assume people will vote for him to get rid of Starmer?
Even my constituency is expected to switch to Reform.

Awful news from Australia this morning. 😪

The collapse of popularity for the Labour party was so fast that they had fair warning well over a year ago that the population had no love for them and they had been loaned a vote that they shouldn't take for granted. But it's been gaffe after gaffe since then. It's no wonder that they are so broadly hated.

They don't need an army of malign forces working against them with Mickey Mouse news articles when they are so expert at incompetence and arrogant in their intent to engineer a government that nobody asked or voted for.

Yes, I can only guess as to the motives but will sit on my hands until more is known.

Awful. It was at an event celebrating Hanukkah. Enough said, I think.

Oh, I've just seen more. It absolutely does look like a terrorist attack. Bloody hell.

So awful 😥

Appalling timing from Starmer:

Wonder if there's any link to this?

What we know about the antisemitic attacks in Australia allegedly orchestrated by Iran | Australian security and counter-terrorism | The Guardian https://share.google/2vFMUmilksqBKqsH9

They've just put out another more appropriate tweet, after leaving that one up for an hour 🙄

There's a video going around showing a member of the public literally wrestling a shotgun out of the hands of one of the gunmen.

Just had a scout around and found it. He was really brave and I can't believe how composed he was to hold the gun on the guy and stay calm.

After the events at Brown University last night where the Gunman still has not been detained and 2 are dead and 8 Critical, it really is a dangerous time to be alive. We really need to be vigilant, because I am expecting an attack somewhere in the UK.

Yes it’s on another thread. Incredible bravery.

Universities and beaches, just too much 😥

GB News are showing it now.

Reports that this was a widely advertised organised event to celebrate Hanukkah.

Upstartled · Today 09:31
The dwindling party figures makes clear that even their own members can't stomach them now.
It was interesting to read that the plotting for Burnham includes getting him a seat before May in the potential areas of Gorton and Denton and Norwich South.
On the MRP electoral consensus polling Gorton and Denton is predicted to win over reform with current polling, with 24% vote share and reform snapping at the heels at 22.3%. Norwich South is expected to win with a vote share of 25.5% and Greens on...25.4%!
This isn't the sure win that I think they think it is.
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Yeh, there are no 'safe' Labour seats now. As a pp said upthread, maybe Burnham should try London. Unless they think Burnham can cut through the hatred for Labour, and they assume people will vote for him to get rid of Starmer?
Even my constituency is expected to switch to Reform.

OP post

I think what Burnham and his team think that because the combined conservative/Reform vote is around 33% Labour/Green (32%)23%) :55% he will be safe in Denton/Gorton) Gorton is not a 'safe place', though parts of Denton are quite nice, which makes me think Denton should be in the Ashton Under Lyne Seat) Seats should be Representative of the people who live, and 95% of the Reform/Conservative vote will be from Denton residents !

I have said before we need to look at Combined votes between Right/Left blocks in a Seat because, I believe this is likely to be more important than ever at the next General Election !

Agreed. Atrocities committed at this time of year engender heightened reaction to the horror - the absolute goal of those who seek to harm us.

My figures are from Nowcast:
Nowcast — Election Maps UK

Disinformation and RW isn’t why Labour is unpopular - they’ve alienated plenty on the centre left too. To keep parroting that it’s a hostile media environment etc is not helping them. Very few people believe they are on the right track policy wise.

its a scary world isn’t it, and getting scarier.

Yep. It’s a poor excuse.

I'm not sure. It might be that those who vote Green would vote in Burnham if the alternative is a reform candidate. Or they might vote Green regardless.

I mean, who knows what people who'd vote for a party led by a hypnotist, gender woo, anti-semite might do given the choice? Safe to say logic is out of the window with that lot.

KS really messed up on X after the horrendous shootings in Bondi

An automated generic message sent out to the Jewish community with no mention of Bondi

Sums him up

But it's a satisfying narrative to think that you have been undone by some evil force than confront the obvious answer, that you shot yourself in the foot, again and again and again.

It's just horrendous. My heart goes out to the victims and their families and friends.