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Labour isn't working - Thread 23

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TheNuthatch · 03/12/2025 14:58

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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justasking111 · 10/12/2025 20:52

Newsflash*

Only 11 JRM calendars left in stock.

EmeraldRoulette · 10/12/2025 20:52

justasking111 · 10/12/2025 20:52

Newsflash*

Only 11 JRM calendars left in stock.

oh my God, you guys really bought them ALL 😂😂

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 10/12/2025 21:28

I’ve only seen some very brief highlights of PMQs today, but Badenoch looked on form. I do like her style.

Starmer is a shrunken figure. A pathetic little man.

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mbonfield · 10/12/2025 21:39

Labour has never worked especially with this bunch of clowns

Parsley4321 · 10/12/2025 21:47

Badenoch is on fire 🔥
I need this calendar

EmeraldRoulette · 10/12/2025 22:14

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 10/12/2025 21:28

I’ve only seen some very brief highlights of PMQs today, but Badenoch looked on form. I do like her style.

Starmer is a shrunken figure. A pathetic little man.

She did well, but she stuck to asking questions

I wish more politicians would do this

They were questions that were designed to skewer him, but useful nonetheless.

my water has just gone. It's out on the surrounding roads as well. Annoying. One thing I hate about modern blocks of flats, We are completely on the mains. My previous block had a water tank so you could at least get something to flush the loo and for the bathroom taps.

Then again, I think most of the houses are all on the mains as well. No one seems to want to have a water tank. I presume that's something to do with safety, but it is useful to have

Mum still seems to have it so that's good. I'm expecting that to go though. It's weird. I'm looking at the map and problems are just popping up everywhere.

TheNuthatch · 11/12/2025 09:16

justasking111 · 10/12/2025 20:52

Newsflash*

Only 11 JRM calendars left in stock.

🤣🤣 Brilliant.
I think we've helped their sales. 😂

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TheNuthatch · 11/12/2025 09:19

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 10/12/2025 21:28

I’ve only seen some very brief highlights of PMQs today, but Badenoch looked on form. I do like her style.

Starmer is a shrunken figure. A pathetic little man.

I watched it late last night (as you do 😂).
Totally agree with your take. Starmer looked diminished.

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TheNuthatch · 11/12/2025 09:20

mbonfield · 10/12/2025 21:39

Labour has never worked especially with this bunch of clowns

Welcome 👋 😁

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TheNuthatch · 11/12/2025 09:21

@EmeraldRoulette
Sorry to hear about your water. Is it back on this morning?

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justasking111 · 11/12/2025 09:21

TheNuthatch · 11/12/2025 09:16

🤣🤣 Brilliant.
I think we've helped their sales. 😂

There's only nine now 😁

EasternStandard · 11/12/2025 09:22

TheNuthatch · 11/12/2025 09:19

I watched it late last night (as you do 😂).
Totally agree with your take. Starmer looked diminished.

I didn’t watch but completely agree from the one I did watch. He’s lost it. Kemi is beating him.

She’s getting a lot of love on IG and he’s pretty much getting the opposite.

TheNuthatch · 11/12/2025 09:23

justasking111 · 11/12/2025 09:21

There's only nine now 😁

@Parsley4321 must have treated herself to a couple last night. 😁

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justasking111 · 11/12/2025 09:23

Satire lives

Labour isn't working - Thread 23
TheNuthatch · 11/12/2025 09:27

EasternStandard · 11/12/2025 09:22

I didn’t watch but completely agree from the one I did watch. He’s lost it. Kemi is beating him.

She’s getting a lot of love on IG and he’s pretty much getting the opposite.

Good, she deserves it. She is saying exactly what most people are thinking.
She was great yesterday.

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redange · 11/12/2025 10:00

Kemi is really finding her stride now, it has taken a while but she is becoming what I always thought she had in her. I don't know how many watch Preston Journalist on You Tube, but he is an interesting Blogger who post relevant information. He, believes part of the reason that Kemi Badenoch is being so successful at present, is that they is a huge story about Reeves/Starmer to come out. Hopefully, this will be the final straw for them two horrors However, that opens up the opportunity for the United Kingdom to go to its lowest ever point since the 'madness' of King George the 3rd in 1788. This being the likely outcome with the election of the equally ridiculous Angela Raynor.

What is encouraging though is that the 'mainstream' in the guise of Talk Radio/GB News Mark Dolan this morning has got the message. This, morning describing this Government as 'Evil' and Wicked and the number of normal people phoning in and concurring, with this viewpoint across all Talk shows is conclusive. I think the only mainstream media outlets peddling anything positive about this Government is LBC and that 'disgraceful' destroyer of Harvey Procter/Leon Brittan James O Brien. Even Ed Balls is very quiet on Good Morning Britain!

hamstersarse · 11/12/2025 10:10

The BBC have learned nothing from the seemingly forgotten recent distortion scandal.

Just yesterday reporting on the excellent PMQs they fail to leave in Kemi’s response to Starmer’s waffle. “Wrong” is what she replied and gave the correct figures, yet the BBC deliberately distort the exchange. It’s so weird they don’t think we know.

x.com/bbcpolitics/status/1998731998458716191?s=46&t=P73CWb5wPJ7_FuwIdMZsTw

EmeraldRoulette · 11/12/2025 10:11

@TheNuthatch thank you yes it is back - but likely to go off again later apparently!

i've been pondering on that thing about 90% of Labour never having worked in the private sector. I suppose there's a lot more of this around than I realised.

hamstersarse · 11/12/2025 10:29

EmeraldRoulette · 11/12/2025 10:11

@TheNuthatch thank you yes it is back - but likely to go off again later apparently!

i've been pondering on that thing about 90% of Labour never having worked in the private sector. I suppose there's a lot more of this around than I realised.

It is a staggering statistic and I don’t think people who work in the public sector truly realise how different it is

I used to do consultancy work and would work with both private and public sector clients, the difference was like night and day. The big corporate giants were forensic in how they dealt with projects, everything was needed tomorrow, the standard of work required was intensely high, they battered you on price.

Switch to a public sector clients (NHS, council, government department) it was deliver it whenever you like, no bartering on costs, don’t really care about quality, constant delays, giant long meetings with so many people and 80% of them not saying a word.

It was just a fact that working with public sector was a piece of piss.

TheNuthatch · 11/12/2025 13:13

hamstersarse · 11/12/2025 10:10

The BBC have learned nothing from the seemingly forgotten recent distortion scandal.

Just yesterday reporting on the excellent PMQs they fail to leave in Kemi’s response to Starmer’s waffle. “Wrong” is what she replied and gave the correct figures, yet the BBC deliberately distort the exchange. It’s so weird they don’t think we know.

x.com/bbcpolitics/status/1998731998458716191?s=46&t=P73CWb5wPJ7_FuwIdMZsTw

Yep. That's a deliberate misrepresentation.

Kemi's questions were framed to deliberately extract a waffle bomb that she could then correct. She did the same with the promised 6.5K teachers. Good ol' bbc.

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SWmom1 · 11/12/2025 15:09

hamstersarse · 11/12/2025 10:29

It is a staggering statistic and I don’t think people who work in the public sector truly realise how different it is

I used to do consultancy work and would work with both private and public sector clients, the difference was like night and day. The big corporate giants were forensic in how they dealt with projects, everything was needed tomorrow, the standard of work required was intensely high, they battered you on price.

Switch to a public sector clients (NHS, council, government department) it was deliver it whenever you like, no bartering on costs, don’t really care about quality, constant delays, giant long meetings with so many people and 80% of them not saying a word.

It was just a fact that working with public sector was a piece of piss.

This was my experience too. 100%. I worked for a Supermarket, then cancer charity, then public sector, then Global IT provider. All very big companies.

Public sector was by far the sloppiest, by a distance. Some of the things what went on should never have happened. Not many really cared because they knew they couldn't be sacked or demoted. There are only 2 ways to move, sideways or upwards. Anyone over 45 put their feet under the table waiting for their final salary pension. Edit: In fact i've just remembered, a fair few middle aged sat on their hands until 12-24m before retirement then went for promotion just to get their final salary pension higher.

I personally don't need to see any stats, any narrative, I intrinsically know less private sector and more public sector is bad for the country.....but this has now been the drift for almost 30 years.

redange · 11/12/2025 15:59

Reform 30%
Conservative 21%
Labour 20%
Liberal Democrats 14%
Greens 10%

More In Common 8th December 2025

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 11/12/2025 18:19

redange · 11/12/2025 10:01

I’m dubious about this. Talking heads on YouTube, TikTok etc spout all sorts of nonsense. Often it’s the sour, conspiratorial left that do it. But I’d hold anti-Labour voices to the same standards.

It would be great for me to be wrong. But I don’t buy it.