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Labour isn't working - Thread 23

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TheNuthatch · 03/12/2025 14:58

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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TheNuthatch · 09/12/2025 20:27

I've just seen the news that a Labour peer is to chair the grooming gangs inquiry. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

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redange · 09/12/2025 20:40

rawberrybubblegum · Today 18:15
According to this article, 90 per cent of Labour’s MPs have never worked in the private sector. No wonder they have no understanding of what they're doing to the econony.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/1643d8d4701e3a2b
I really am worried for Britain's future, for our children's life chances. Kemi Badenoch does give me hope, but will it be enough? It will take at least 10 years to repair the damage Labour are doing in their term. And that's 10 years if the Conservatives get in next election and apply good judgement to fix things. But it's more likely that Reform will get in. And I daren't even consider a Left wing alliance getting in instead. My mind just won't go to that hell.
I don't think Reform will be much better than Labour economically - they're populists, not disimilar to Labour. Just a different bogeyman. Not to dismiss those voting for them to get rid of Labour: it's particularly self-destructive to declare the people who actually fund the country as the bogeyman and try to destroy them, as Labour are...
And this is going to be a hard 50 years. It will cost a fortune to mitigate the affects of climate change, AI will transform industry and social structures, religious extremists see our culture as anathema, and seek to destroy us. Our children's challenges will be so, so much harder than ours or our parents'. Even without our culture self-imploding in woke self-hatred. Even without being burdened with debt from our current, selfish unwillingness to accept the county's financial constraints and stop throwing money away out of misguided socialist dogma.
Feeling quite discouraged and despondent.

Thank you all for your responses over DD 1

Firstly, Strawberry Bubblegum.
A major difference between Labour and Reform will of course be that 90% of Reform MP's elected will be either Director's of Small and Medium Sized Businesses,or Senior Managers within the Private Sector.
4 of their current 5 MP's are Nigel Farage successful career in the City, running own small investment company . Richard Tice Property and asset Development, Sarah Pochin husband ran a Successful North West based 3 Generational Constructional company until its sad demise in 2019 . Danny Kruger son of Prue Leith and director of family interests. These 4 people on their own have more business acumen than perhaps the 400 MP's in the Labour Party. One of the exceptions in the Labour Party being the 'odd' Pembroke MP Henry Tufnell who does not look like a typical Labour MP nor does he present as one either.

DH thinks this is a good lesson for DD 1 to learn that there will always be people who are envious towards you. The very sad thing is the two girls, who told tales on DD have been on 'sleep overs' in year 8 and were friends of DD, before the green monster took over them. It is very difficult for some teenage girls to accept , that other girls maybe better looking more intelligent, and better at Sport than them. Hence, when an opportunity arrivals via an outside speaker, they took the chance they had to get 'even'.

I know DD 1 could get in any Private school possibly with an (Academic Award) they would all take her . However, I do not want my 'smirking' DH to get the better of me and my choice of a Grammar School for my two DD's. Thus, because in many ways if I could build a school to my specifications, the DD's school would be pretty close to what i would desire.

DH's contemptible attitude towards State Education, drives me mad and he has already got satisfaction that DS's needs have not been met in the State System . I want to prove to him that the best the state has to offer is equal to his education.

For, the record my Adopted EHCP DS will get the chance to enter a Private School in September, if is 'current' School behavior does not prevent it.

For Britain to recover, the public sector needs shredding

This Labour Government proclaims its devotion to growth, yet all its policies ensure that our country falls further and further back

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/1643d8d4701e3a2b

redange · 09/12/2025 20:46

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Christmaschristingle · 09/12/2025 21:14

@redange @strawberrybubblegum
Not sure which that post came from but I agree with every hit we have taken since the global credit crisis labour is digging us into a bigger hole. They are the worst thing that could have happened to us.

And with ai already taking jobs and all smaller business going bust ,pubs cafes etc our young really are in the shit.

It's awful and it doesn't surprise me at all they have never worked in the private sector.

strawberrybubblegum · 09/12/2025 22:04

Thank you @redange for offering positivity. I'll try to keep positive!

I'm glad you're happy with your DD's school. Childhood is such an important time for building our children into their lifetlong selves that it's really important that the school matches your values. It was a visiting speaker, so hopefully won't happen again and you can help your DD frame it.

38thparallel · 09/12/2025 22:05

The very sad thing is the two girls, who told tales on DD have been on 'sleep overs' in year 8 and were friends of DD, before the green monster took over them.

I agree this is sad but i think what is even more shocking is that the speaker engaged by the school took on board what the two tale-tellers said and started bullying your dd while the teacher stood by in silence.
I agree with other pp - this should be taken further.

Pacificsunshine · 09/12/2025 22:35

This episode reminds me of Jewish students being singled out, shamed and humiliated by professors in Ivy League classrooms shortly after October 7th.

Just disgusting.

redange · 09/12/2025 23:09

It doesn't help when you have Government policy that is openly hostile to Private Schooling. It could also be debatable for those on the political left, whether a child that passed the 11+ from a Private Prep school, should be eligible for a Grammar School Place. Therefore, accordingly the external speaker in her twisted and 'green' eyed way believed questioning 'agency' given by a Private School justifiable. I believe the school do not believe anything 'untoward' happened in regards to the subject discussed, just the way the three girls from Prep Schools were used as props for the talk. Sadly, I don't think this kind of external messaging to impressionable, young people is rare, one look at the University sector and this type of indoctrination is everyday. Indeed my own 'niece' at Bristol University left wing tendencies were seen to be taken with the seed planted by left wing' Private School Teachers'

I have also heard that, from parents whose children failed the 11+ and have told me that you should stay in the Private sector, due to selection at 11 being not equitable for children from Primary Schools. Rude, comments have also been made to me from parents at DS's Comprehensive school about DS's perceived background ! Again totally false...

justasking111 · 09/12/2025 23:27

Was talking to a grandmother whose family are in Manchester. Both the children have private tutors even in the school holidays, Monday to Friday. They have music lessons as well. All this to get through the entrance examination for the grammar school.

CambridgeSingers · 10/12/2025 08:28

And this impact was completely predictable and predicted ahead of time too:

‘Salary sacrifice is another penalty on motherhood’

www.thetimes.com/article/a68110ff-9903-498c-b44c-4a1ceaf41e77?shareToken=4d6885f2ed0325107f87e320d56503a6

EmeraldRoulette · 10/12/2025 09:11

This is from yesterday - I mean, I saw it on here yesterday...90% of Labour have never worked in the private sector?! 😱😱

CambridgeSingers · 10/12/2025 09:16

It’s obvious when you look at your local candidates - my last two hopefuls neither of them have set foot out of charity or union backgrounds.

it’s yet another reason we have the politics we have.

TheNuthatch · 10/12/2025 09:35

DancingFerret · 09/12/2025 23:49

Quentin Letts on Little Torsten with a bit of Reeves thrown in:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-15368553/QUENTIN-LETTS-Torsten-colleagues-rants.html

That made me giggle. 😊

Mortuary attendant James Murray 😂😂

I can't stand Torsten Bell. How on earth did he win his seat? He clearly fancies himself as a future PM.

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TheNuthatch · 10/12/2025 09:42

CambridgeSingers · 10/12/2025 08:28

And this impact was completely predictable and predicted ahead of time too:

‘Salary sacrifice is another penalty on motherhood’

www.thetimes.com/article/a68110ff-9903-498c-b44c-4a1ceaf41e77?shareToken=4d6885f2ed0325107f87e320d56503a6

Thanks for the share.
As you say, very predictable, but the actual figures in that article are startling. We should be making it easier for working mums, not harder.

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TheNuthatch · 10/12/2025 09:44

EmeraldRoulette · 10/12/2025 09:11

This is from yesterday - I mean, I saw it on here yesterday...90% of Labour have never worked in the private sector?! 😱😱

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Ikr. 90%!
Explains a lot doesn't it.

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CambridgeSingers · 10/12/2025 09:45

So many women spend their 20s trying to clear their debts/save a deposit, their 30s worrying about small kids and then they hit 40 and realise their pension is looking non existent…in these days of relationship break down too, government should be looking at this as what makes women poorer pensioners than men…but no, no hope of that from a Labour govt!

Prometheus78 · 10/12/2025 09:49

Fucking amen to this.

Labour MPs have been barred from dozens of pubs and restaurants across Britain as part of a brewing backlash against high taxes.

Stickers reading “No Labour MPs” have been affixed to windows and doors by owners furious at a rise in business rates.

The campaign was started on Friday by Andy Lennox, who runs the Old Thatch pub in Dorset. He said about 50 venues have pledged to ban Labour MPs.

TheNuthatch · 10/12/2025 09:53

CambridgeSingers · 10/12/2025 09:45

So many women spend their 20s trying to clear their debts/save a deposit, their 30s worrying about small kids and then they hit 40 and realise their pension is looking non existent…in these days of relationship break down too, government should be looking at this as what makes women poorer pensioners than men…but no, no hope of that from a Labour govt!

I will hold my hands up. When I was in the trenches with young dc, I didn't even consider my pension and retirement, never crossed my mind. I was just surviving. Dh took care of it though, which I didn't know about at the time. Thank God he did that for me/us.
If I'd been a single parent, I'd be screwed now.

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TheNuthatch · 10/12/2025 09:54

Prometheus78 · 10/12/2025 09:49

Fucking amen to this.

Labour MPs have been barred from dozens of pubs and restaurants across Britain as part of a brewing backlash against high taxes.

Stickers reading “No Labour MPs” have been affixed to windows and doors by owners furious at a rise in business rates.

The campaign was started on Friday by Andy Lennox, who runs the Old Thatch pub in Dorset. He said about 50 venues have pledged to ban Labour MPs.

Haha, love that. Good on 'em.

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CambridgeSingers · 10/12/2025 09:59

Same here - so any mums I know have taken 10 plus years out of ft work, are not married - labour should be trying to help those people save into pensions not making it harder.

CaveMum · 10/12/2025 10:04

Reeves is up before the Treasury Select Committee this morning. Live now on BBC News website if anyone has the stomach for it!

hamstersarse · 10/12/2025 10:45

CaveMum · 10/12/2025 10:04

Reeves is up before the Treasury Select Committee this morning. Live now on BBC News website if anyone has the stomach for it!

I’m sure it would be utterly pointless to watch

450-520k children lifted out of poverty
free breakfast clubs
productivity downgrade
the right thing to do
i feel passionate about lifting children out of poverty
i was at a hospital and the nurses cheered

Whatever the question, these are the answers

ChristmasMantleStatue · 10/12/2025 10:53

strawberrybubblegum · 09/12/2025 22:04

Thank you @redange for offering positivity. I'll try to keep positive!

I'm glad you're happy with your DD's school. Childhood is such an important time for building our children into their lifetlong selves that it's really important that the school matches your values. It was a visiting speaker, so hopefully won't happen again and you can help your DD frame it.

@redange my DCs are in an indy. I was telling them about what happened to your DD on the way to school this morning (they are nearly 16 and nearly 14 and we talk about politics alot. ). They were absolutely incandescent with anger at how your DD had been treated. DS1 asked me 'Please tell that girl's mum we support her'.

(Several weeks ago I said to them both that we really had to stop swearing as much as we did. DS1 was silent for a bit then said 'We can still say 'This fucking government can't we?' )

ChristmasMantleStatue · 10/12/2025 10:54

I watched about half a minute of Reeves. It was all 'leak presented inaccurate data/ I have to deal with the world I am in'.

In other words.... same old same old.

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