Thread 39 Starmer: chwech/saith - dechreuodd y plant ei

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Political and general chat

Taxes optional but greatly appreciated

It's almost as if they don't think there's any consequences for their actions.

Eh? @SerendipityJane ................ unfortunately I am not an engineer , just my musings on a wet saturday afternoon hahaha

I am so sorry for you, @evenstar.
I am come late to this thread, I am in Holland staying with my oldest uni friend and having a fabulous time. Her choir concert last night was amazing, beautiful rendition of Faure's Requiem, which is a favourite. Cat tax: the big fat tabby man. DD is minding them for me and cuddling them rotten.

All very interesting, thanks!
I know cafodd ei is used for some formal writing like was born becomes ‘had his birth’. I was just confused I guess!
In mid-west Wales where I learned my Welsh (user name is a clue!) you would get either ti moyn or ti eisiau paned. Bit of a mash-up!
I also have some less than polite Welsh as some of my lessons were in the pub with the late Dewi Pws.

She’ll go off and form The Party of You in a minute.

Veel plezier Pointy, are you bringing back speculaas and hagelslag?

Faure’s Requiem is indeed splendid, @pointythings . I’ve sung various bits but never done the whole work in one go. Have a fab time with your friend.

Free ranging for a bit, I noticed ( a faint stand of argument emerging that the UK bought WW2 on itself by choosing to oppose Hitler when we could have stayed nice and safe if we had left him to it.

I wonder if this will spread. We already know Farage is singing that tune for Ukraine. How long till he blames asylum seekers for forcing the UK into WW2 ?

When Piers Morgan is the grown up in the room, you know the Russians have gone too far.

I have gevulde speculaas, but no hagelslag. I don't much care for it. I do however have a lot of the Conimex mixes and of course roze koeken for the kids.

@cardibach, I also have some less than polite Welsh as some of my lessons were in the pub with the late Dewi Pws. Mawredd mawr! I'm impressed.
I guessed you were from Ceredigion. (My user name isn't terribly polite.)

I believe the Tory policy was to be tougher on crime and put more people in jail without creating any more capacity and hope that that wouldn’t backfire in any way. Sunak put the icing on the cake of that policy by calling a general election just as it did backfire.

@Evenstar so sorry about your husband.

“Justice spending peaked in 2007–08. The resource (day-to-day) budget, which comprises around 85% of the total, fell by one-third (33%) in real terms between 2007–08 and 2016–17.

1. MoJ capital funding was cut by 70% over the early 2010s and, within this, capital funding for both HM Courts and Tribunals Service and HM Prison and Probation Service was cut by more than 90%. Capital funding was then increased after 2016, and sharp funding injections in recent years have taken the MoJ capital budget to a planned £2.0 billion in 2025–26, more than treble its pre-pandemic level and around 50% above its level prior to the cuts of the 2010s. Yet between 2007–08 and 2025–26, cumulative MoJ capital spending was 16% lower than it would have been had spending instead been maintained at its 2007–08 real-terms level for that entire period.”

https://ifs.org.uk/publications/justice-spending-england-and-wales

Worth reading in full.

There just hasn’t been the investment necessary in all aspects of infrastructure & staffing.
As a result the investment now required to raise productivity is so much more than it would have been if capital investment etc had
kept pace.

As with so many public services my first thought is always that ‘I wouldn’t want to start from there’.

That house in Clacton doesn’t pay for itself, you know.

So sorry @Evenstar i do hope you are both able to be supported my heart goes out to you both sending much love & strength as you go forward 💕
thank you for the new thread Duncin & all contributors flowers as ever from me.
Pointy have a fabulous time & the other posters that are enjoying breaks away.
The probation service should never ever have been put out to private contract for a supposed party of law & order the Tories presided over the ruination of the justice service, I am concerned that David Lammy appears to want to go much further than the Levenson report it makes me very uneasy which I’m currently finding it difficult to articulate, it’s so utterly appalling that the previous government had so little respect for vital public services.

"We're on a train to nowhere"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75vzp6kyzdo

Thank you for the thread. I have been keeping up but I have been hiding from MN due to the absolutely dreadful comments about the two child cap. Although it appears the narrative is the same on my local FB page. People are just vile. Not one person mentions the overall benefit cap which if people are subject to will mean little difference in income. Yet they just spout the shitty headlines of an extra £14k per year.
One charming person said benefits should only be for 3 months and then people should be made to work 3 days a week for them.
I pointed out that if you work 3 days a week then you aren’t unemployed you are a part time worker and 3 days work should be worth more than £92.05 JSA.
Anyway, what do I know I am a lefturd apparently.
So I have been hiding SM as it’s making me cross.
in other news here is some cat tax. He has had to have a very severe grooming session and the groomer went a bit Edward Scissorhands. I don’t want to coat/ cat shame so you can only see his little face

I see someone who has a profoundly ill and disabled child and posted to say that the lifting of the cap would help her came in for one or two highly unpleasant comments.

Noswaith Dda. Glad to read that Tennyson is as normal and grumpy as ever.

The normal cat who helps me pay cat tax is nowhere to be seen, indeed I am getting concerned for his welfare at the venue he lives at, none of the staff has seen him either.

The train to nowhere is ridiculous in my opinion.

He's very cross today. He'll be even more cross when he goes for his annual health check on Thursday. Last year he behaved really badly and I felt like the worst cat parent ever. 😂

I am learning so much with this thread. (Just reminding everyone I am not an undercover Reformista).

Many thanks to all - and support to all who need it - @Evenstar and @BIWI

RIP Tom Stoppard - a testament to a kinder Brtain

Born Tomas Straussler in Czechoslovakia, he fled his home during the Nazi occupation and found refuge in Britain.
He later learned from relatives that all four of his grandparents had been Jewish, and that they had died in Nazi concentration camps.

I wouldn’t worry too much, vets are used to it. Gladys’ fear of the vets means she has to be sedated in advance of a visit now.

I know. MN is more batshit than usual. The benefits bashing and predictions of the fall of the UK are now beyond the possibility sensible debate.

The benefits bashing has a lovely added flavour of racism, too with an extra garnish of the Great Replacement Theory. Also, the bloody idiots seem to have forgotten about the existence of the overall benefits cap.

I am continuing to hide threads. I can't be bothered with the 🤬😡🤬.

That is a ridiculously cute cat ❤️

Pesky facts

Is welfare spending ''out of control''?

It's estimated to be 10.8 per cent of GDP this financial year.

That's just 0.8 per cent of GDP higher than in 2007-08, and total welfare spending has actually fallen fallen by 1.2 per cent of GDP since 2012-13

https://bsky.app/profile/resolutionfoundation.org/post/3m6pfy2y2pi2u

Saving that one for future use @DuncinToffee !