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Labour isn't working - Thread 21

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TheNuthatch · 23/11/2025 09:49

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

We are bracing for the budget 😬

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Rivalled · 26/11/2025 19:34

oooh good question @ReevesRuinedChristmas maybe I was too broad on the benefits, as you’ll be dragged into paying more due to the freeze. Reeves said in her speech lower earners would benefit from salary sacrifice being NIable as higher earners exceed the £2k pa limit - so you benefit from the warm glow of knowing higher earners pay more NI…

enjoy that tendentious warm glow!

ReevesRuinedChristmas · 26/11/2025 19:41

@Rivalled exactly I don't benefit and I'm not on benefits.

But you are correct I mustn't look a gift horse in the mouth I will celebrate that warm glow over the festive season...

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Rivalled · 26/11/2025 19:44

Oh look - I didn’t read this on Sunday but that is exactly what we thought re child poverty and the cap:

What if the two-child cap is not the real problem?

www.thetimes.com/article/a4f245e3-b226-44ed-afb4-dbd56391226b?shareToken=750ab6bee7727c6320a10a1a59bc08ea

ProfessorDrPrunesqualer · 26/11/2025 19:50

Upstartled · 26/11/2025 19:23

Not till Feb 1st. They're probably just drowning their sorrows.

Green Fairy Fairies GIF by Janet Devlin

Thanks for that nearly rushed out

redange · 26/11/2025 19:50

TheNuthatch · Today 18:15
Catatemyhomework · Today 18:08
I've been thinking about this mansion tax. It doesn't affect me by a long shot, but if people can't pay it, I read that they can pay upon sale or death. How will this generate tax? It could take years. I'm not sure it will generate much in the short term.
It will barely generate anything at all, it's another politics of envy bs idea.
Labour want people to think that they're taking the £26bn from 'the rich', when the truth is that most of it will be raised via income tax.

In the medium term it will be very harmful to the UK . The perceptions it will create both at home and on the international front will be very telling. It is another 'reason' for which there are many (most created in the last 10 years) for not relocating or even staying in the UK if you achieve £10 Million status. These people are being 'courted' by the United States and Italy , Portugal seems to still have a bit of 'niceness' and old fashioned civility to it,. Then of course you have the Middle East Dubai, Qatar and Bahrain which if you don't offer opinions about, you can have a very good life and your family will be 100% safe.

The only 'mugs' staying who could in theory leave are people like me/DH and my dear sister who is committed to farming. We will all go down with the Titanic

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RelationshipGuru · 26/11/2025 20:17

MantleStatue · 26/11/2025 19:18

Dh went to Aldi on the way home and said the shelves of alcohol are being stripped bare. he walked in as one man walked out witth a trolley filled with boxes and boxes of wine.

I did not realise the tax on booze started so quickly? DH thinks from midnight.

Shoplifting joke?

ProfessorDrPrunesqualer · 26/11/2025 20:40

There’s me wondering what’s happened to you all !
My new image
post budget

Any others feeling an image change

oops jumping to next thread

Labour isn't working - Thread 21
Lalgarh · 26/11/2025 20:44

Conservative Sir Edward Leigh MP calls for the Triple Lock to be scrapped

https://nitter.net/Max_Booth_/status/1993699722293309900#m

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 26/11/2025 20:46

Lalgarh · 26/11/2025 20:44

Conservative Sir Edward Leigh MP calls for the Triple Lock to be scrapped

https://nitter.net/Max_Booth_/status/1993699722293309900#m

Wrong thread.

redange · 26/11/2025 21:01

There would be no need to scrap the Triple Lock if Reeves didn't give money away like water. Why should the old and Disabled suffer due to the profligacy and incompetency of the state. Triple Lock Provision and Carers Allowance should be guaranteed. In fact it is pathetic that Carers Allowance is £83 a week and those in receipt of Carers Allowance are 'exempted' from any criticism towards the Benefit Class.

In another confused policy Reeves as announced the Luxury Car Tax for Electric cars will now start at £50 K and not 40 K for Internal Combustion Engines. There are two confusions here firstly does Hybrid Luxury Car Tax come in at £50 K or 40 K. The other more telling one is about Mobility, given the attack on the choices of disabled people (which will not save one pound) based on 'Perceived' Luxury. All Mercedes, Bmw's and Audi's have been removed due to quote being Luxury Cars. However, the Government have declared 'Luxury' for Electric cars is £50k Plus. Therefore, a New Mercedes CLA 250 Sport Electric with a RRP of £45,615 available for £40 K should be reinstated on the Mobility car List.

You cannot underestimate the stupidity and lack of research or knowledge of these people in Government or the Civil Service.

nearlylovemyusername · 26/11/2025 21:04

ProfessorDrPrunesqualer · 26/11/2025 17:43

Income bonds

yep, 2% extra tax.

What they did is effectively put NI on ALL income, excl pensions it seems, but called it income tax.

I'd classify this as manifesto breach still - people who are working but having savings and investments will pay more income tax. So legally it's a breach

ProfessorDrPrunesqualer · 26/11/2025 21:08

nearlylovemyusername · 26/11/2025 21:04

yep, 2% extra tax.

What they did is effectively put NI on ALL income, excl pensions it seems, but called it income tax.

I'd classify this as manifesto breach still - people who are working but having savings and investments will pay more income tax. So legally it's a breach

Agree

Its cut our income in one massive blow

Woollyguru · 26/11/2025 22:36

ProfessorDrPrunesqualer · 26/11/2025 21:08

Agree

Its cut our income in one massive blow

You can still put £20k into a money market funds in an ISA which is "cash equivalent".

Also low coupon gilts are extremely tax efficient if you've used up your ISA allowance.

Parsley4321 · 27/11/2025 06:39

Imagine some of those work shy prolific breeders this am celebrating their wins because let’s face it they are the only winners in the shower of government handouts

CaveMum · 27/11/2025 10:22

We’re all over on Thread 22 now 👉

ProfessorDrPrunesqualer · 27/11/2025 13:16

Our money is tied in for a few more years
We can only move the interest.
We have ISAs aswell but that’s not the issue
but thanks @Woollyguru

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