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Labour isn't working - Thread 20

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TheNuthatch · 17/11/2025 11:40

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙* *

We are bracing for the budget. 😬

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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CruCru · 18/11/2025 10:00

SpaceRaccoon · 17/11/2025 20:38

To play devil's advocate, the idea might be to make the prospect so unappealing that they don't come?

I suspect that is the case. I understand that at one point loads of people were going to Ireland because they didn’t want to end up in Rwanda - making the Irish fairly cross.

SouthernAccents · 18/11/2025 11:13

Sir Keir Starmer has vowed to lead Labour into the next election following speculation over a potential leadership challenge.

The Prime Minister attempted to quash doubts over his future after a briefing war last week threw his position into doubt.

Sir Keir made the comments as a YouGov poll for The Times found nearly half of all Labour voters want him to step down by the next election.
Almost a quarter think Sir Keir should quit right away, while just over a fifth think he should stand aside before the next vote, according to the survey of 2,100 people.

In an interview with The Mirror, the Prime Minister signalled he had no intention of giving in to his detractors.
Asked if he would lead Labour into the next general election, he said: “Yes, I will. Let me be really clear – every minute that’s not spent talking about and dealing with the cost of living is a minute wasted on the political work of this Government.
“That’s my response to last week. I remain utterly focused on what matters to me most, which is bearing down on the cost of living and making people feel better off.”
He said people wanted to “give their kids a treat, go out for a meal, have a holiday, get on and progress, and feel safe and secure”.

Starmer is such a fool, and yet he treats us as fools.

Very few people believe a word Starmer says, I suspect.

Nanalovesnature · 18/11/2025 11:14

He is completely delusional/deranged!

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EasternStandard · 18/11/2025 11:22

Incredible given he and Labour are making things worse for so many people.

CaveMum · 18/11/2025 11:41

Just listened to today’s TRIE - apparently Angela Rayner/her people got a long way in talks to do I’m A Celeb this year. Surely she can’t have been thinking that IACGMOOH would be a good career move if she has Leadership aspirations?! Perhaps that’s why she pulled out.

They tried to get Ed Davie too, but he said no.

TheNuthatch · 18/11/2025 12:40

Afternoon 😁
I was laughing at the front page of the Mirror this morning with Starmer saying he will fight on. Crack on Keir, we're all rooting for you. 😂

Good grief, the thought of Ange on I'm a celeb. 😬

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SouthernAccents · 18/11/2025 12:53

Net migration to the UK last year was 20% lower than previously thought, according to revised figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS).

The number, the difference between those entering and leaving the country, has been revised down by 86,000 people and now stands at 345,000 in 2024.
The driving factor behind the change is that more British nationals are thought to have emigrated in 2024 than initially recorded, with 100,000 fewer now thought to be living in the UK.

No shit…

CruCru · 18/11/2025 12:59

CaveMum · 18/11/2025 11:41

Just listened to today’s TRIE - apparently Angela Rayner/her people got a long way in talks to do I’m A Celeb this year. Surely she can’t have been thinking that IACGMOOH would be a good career move if she has Leadership aspirations?! Perhaps that’s why she pulled out.

They tried to get Ed Davie too, but he said no.

When was this? I could understand it if it was just after her resigning, she was probably panicking that her political career was over.

CruCru · 18/11/2025 13:01

Although I find it weird and distasteful when MPs do things that make them unavailable for long periods of time. Their constituents deserve to be able to contact them.

I remember when George Galloway went on Celebrity Big Brother. The producers muted all his political speeches and left in the bit where he pretended to be a cat.

SpaceRaccoon · 18/11/2025 14:40

SouthernAccents · 18/11/2025 12:53

Net migration to the UK last year was 20% lower than previously thought, according to revised figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS).

The number, the difference between those entering and leaving the country, has been revised down by 86,000 people and now stands at 345,000 in 2024.
The driving factor behind the change is that more British nationals are thought to have emigrated in 2024 than initially recorded, with 100,000 fewer now thought to be living in the UK.

No shit…

Tax base winging itself off to pastures greener...

CaveMum · 18/11/2025 14:41

CruCru · 18/11/2025 12:59

When was this? I could understand it if it was just after her resigning, she was probably panicking that her political career was over.

The suggestion was that she got pretty far in negotiations- they more than implied that the current line up was built around her being the big “name” as there is no other headline figure this year. I’d guess that she only pulled out with a couple of weeks to go on that basis.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 18/11/2025 14:42

SpaceRaccoon · 18/11/2025 14:40

Tax base winging itself off to pastures greener...

I would like to see a breakdown in contribution to the economy in the figures.

TheNuthatch · 18/11/2025 14:56

This week's YouGov.
Not much movement this week, but good news for the Greens.

Reform - 27 (+1)
Labour - 19 (-)
Con - 17 (-1)
Green - 17 (+2)
Lib Dem - 13 (-1)

I'm really struggling with MN today. Haven't been able to access the site most of today.

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TheNuthatch · 18/11/2025 15:00

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 18/11/2025 14:42

I would like to see a breakdown in contribution to the economy in the figures.

Yes that would be interesting to see the impact on the economy.

Number of British nationals leaving has been revised up from 77K to 257K. I would love to know how many of those are high earners.

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Upstartled · 18/11/2025 15:02

I think something like quarter of a million people left the UK. That's such a huge number compared to normal times.

Upstartled · 18/11/2025 15:02

Sorry, x-post.

EasternStandard · 18/11/2025 15:09

Yes who’s leaving and how much tax did they pay

Yep some internet issue impacting loads, and others still want digital ID and cashless even, would be carnage.

SouthernAccents · 18/11/2025 15:09

SpaceRaccoon · 18/11/2025 14:40

Tax base winging itself off to pastures greener...

Ten (net takers) in, one (net contributor) out.

Upstartled · 18/11/2025 15:17

So if net migration stands at 350k, does that include or exclude the 50k, year on year, illegal crossing migrants?

Dragonscaledaisy · 18/11/2025 15:21

SouthernAccents · 18/11/2025 11:13

Sir Keir Starmer has vowed to lead Labour into the next election following speculation over a potential leadership challenge.

The Prime Minister attempted to quash doubts over his future after a briefing war last week threw his position into doubt.

Sir Keir made the comments as a YouGov poll for The Times found nearly half of all Labour voters want him to step down by the next election.
Almost a quarter think Sir Keir should quit right away, while just over a fifth think he should stand aside before the next vote, according to the survey of 2,100 people.

In an interview with The Mirror, the Prime Minister signalled he had no intention of giving in to his detractors.
Asked if he would lead Labour into the next general election, he said: “Yes, I will. Let me be really clear – every minute that’s not spent talking about and dealing with the cost of living is a minute wasted on the political work of this Government.
“That’s my response to last week. I remain utterly focused on what matters to me most, which is bearing down on the cost of living and making people feel better off.”
He said people wanted to “give their kids a treat, go out for a meal, have a holiday, get on and progress, and feel safe and secure”.

Starmer is such a fool, and yet he treats us as fools.

Very few people believe a word Starmer says, I suspect.

Bless him. There's no fool like an old fool.

SouthernAccents · 18/11/2025 15:31

MI5 spy service warns UK lawmakers Chinese spies posing as headhunters

I trust that Labour will now nix the Chinese London embassy application.

TheNuthatch · 18/11/2025 15:36

Upstartled · 18/11/2025 15:17

So if net migration stands at 350k, does that include or exclude the 50k, year on year, illegal crossing migrants?

Yes it usually does include those who arrive illegally (that we know of).

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38thparallel · 18/11/2025 15:48

I trust that Labour will now nix the Chinese London embassy application.

I would hope so but I doubt it as Labour have been cosying up to the Chinese for some time now, and many feel an instinctive bond with a communist government - albeit the CCP seems to be authoritarian rather than strictly communist.

Rexinasaurus · 18/11/2025 15:48

And Starmer is is attempting to mandate digital ID on us all? Fck off

‘Military staff banned from secret conversations in EVs over China spy fears

It comes as MI5 has issued fresh warnings to MPs and members of the House of Lords that they face a significant risk of espionage from China’

https://apple.news/AcVcf8ow9QTuzmSp6Kdxcyw

Eta: I don’t want Alexa, I don’t want an EV, and I don’t want digital ID. I don’t want ‘a smart’ home.

Labour isn't working - Thread 20
Rexinasaurus · 18/11/2025 15:52

38thparallel · 18/11/2025 15:48

I trust that Labour will now nix the Chinese London embassy application.

I would hope so but I doubt it as Labour have been cosying up to the Chinese for some time now, and many feel an instinctive bond with a communist government - albeit the CCP seems to be authoritarian rather than strictly communist.

Even Labour aren’t stupid enough to say me commie you commie let’s be friends.. are they?

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