Labour isn't working - Thread 20

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙* *

We are bracing for the budget. 😬

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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God, the greens, what are people thinking? Anyway, at least it splits the left.

What are people thinking re the greeens it’s bloody insane Zack Polanski 🤦‍♀️

Yes but imagine a labour/lib dem/ greens coalition with the ex-hypnotist PM. Free money for everyone!

Mandatory 'manifest your nation's wealth' and 'there are no borders' sessions once a week for the population. Half the population walking away wondering how their boobs got bigger.

Which half ;

One should not say such things under Polanski.

And only because Lammy will make a hash out of PMQ

😂😂😂😆

Yussef on Polanski the most unserious person to enter politics open borders extra boob but you can’t rent out your flat these people are nuts

Certifiable.

There was a poster on another thread, a Polanski fangirl, saying they would welcome completely open borders. Zero limit on numbers. Obviously we would afford it by "taxing the rich" 🙄

These people are dangerous!

I have a really bad feeling of where this is going to end up, in relation to civil disorder - in terms of this government (ignoring the green loons).

Everything is calm and ‘normal’, until it’s not.

I think that's a genuine worry. As a nation, we are pretty good at quiet grumbling and discontent and generally being stoic - so you don't really get an observable early warning system of outrage.

But I would say that the obliteration of the established parties in the polls and the fact that a party with five MPs has the support of a third of a country should be a klaxon.

Absolutely - and in Labour’s attempts at a hard ‘reset’, they are achieving the opposite of ‘equality’, robbing the conscientious, to pay for the feckless etc.

Starmer and Reeves are evidently deeply unpleasant people - I suspect the consequences may well extend beyond the ballot box.

When people are unable to pay their bills, that’s when things could get ugly IMHO.

UK government borrows higher than expected £17.4bn in October

Retail sales down for the month in indication of fragile state of the economy.

I agree. My children go to private school - but if a grammar school were available, we would have chosen that. The nearest grammar school (in Barnet, it’s too far to ask a child to travel there) has ten applicants for every place. Lots of people really want a grammar school.

There’s a really long thing in the Times about Rachel Reeves (he interviewed her over a few days). It was a reasonably sympathetic interview but the timing is weird - why on earth do this sort of thing just before the budget? It’s titled “Rachel Reeves: I’m sick of the mansplaining”. The comments aren’t particularly kind.

I remember reading something Theresa May wrote on grammar schools (it may have been adapted from a speech she gave). It just blew me away, she had ambition for bright children.

It’s also weird that grammar schools are only available in certain places. Kent gets grammar schools but Sussex doesn’t.

The borrowing is higher than expected every time they release figures.

How are Labour still everything’s fine?

Just wonder what bullshit Reeves is going to come up with to justify her budget.

And it is - utter bullshit.

She’s caught a break on gilts, because equities have been sold off. Doubtless she will seek to take credit for that, and for Bailey’s nailed on cut, in December.

It's so depressing. Absolutely dreading next week. Feels like a cloud of doom hanging over us. Unfortunately I think the doom will be around long after the budget.
Was talking to Dh yesterday about his recent meagre pay rise and we are so skint it's unbelievable. I have bought my children stocking presents but it's less than previous years. Thinking about what else we can cut out. This is before the budget, so I can't imagine how it will be after.
Raising benefits is unthinkable in my opinion we'll working households are struggling more than ever.

I don't understand why they can't read the room. Everything I read is up in arms about it. Why do they persist in making more enemies. They are not governing for the people, they are governing for themselves and their own misguided ideologies.

Yep.
Potentially increasing benefits whilst making life even harder for anyone earning above NMW 😡😡
They are convinced that anyone working in private sector has guaranteed yearly payrises, amazing pensions etc. Fucking imbeciles.

That's why retail sales are down, business + consumer confidence down etc.

They don’t now why it’s happening or what to do
about it. They lack the basic understanding.