Labour isn't working - Thread 20

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙* *

We are bracing for the budget. 😬

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5443813-labour-isnt-working-thread-19?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

Yeah thats very true. They'll flip if you dare question. I agree with lets say 75%, but Ive found they have no tolerance at all for any type of differing opinions.

Oh good, well remembered. Clearly, I make for an unreliable witness. 😂

Wait until they start hounding you off MN for daring to oppose them!

Yeh it was great. Back then mn was mostly pro Labour and some posters would go wild and launch mad vitriol at us.

We survived and here we are laughing and not liking Starmer and co

🎯 on the day multiple posters open up about their experiences on here.

Yes couldn't be more blatant

It did feel like light relief after all the election threads. That was completely deranged. Conservatives were called far right Nazis. I mean, 😅 really

🤣 that was a highlight.

You just know there’s going to be the money shot, as its know in the adult film industry (apparently…)

Will sit and await

Yep.
Most of us had PTSD from the run up to the election. Our thread was like a calm utopia at the time. Let me know if you want a link to our first thread. 😁

I enjoyed lurking for a few threads before I started yakking. I read the first one on a campsite in the Alps 😁
Labour was stressing me about can't even remember what now and it was very helpful to get answers and intelligent takes.

Aw would be fun to revisit. I suspect we predicted much of this chaos.........🤔

So is this like reddit? Can I ask questions or thats considered bad etiquette and I should google it?

I must confess - I am looking forward the sunlit uplands once this diabolical government have gone, and the threads are on ABL…

No, it will be too painful. I'll be saying hopeful things like, oh maybe it'll be okay if she doesn't use the budget to hurt businesses or, perhaps they will be able to wrangle the welfare bill into shape and use all this growth being forecasted to get people into jobs. Like an absolute fool.

My main question is about the budget....

Is there an actual gap in government money they inherited?
Is this why they want to put up taxes?
What can they do if there really is a money gap to plug in?

Also please dont be snarky/rude. I dont know anything about this and I wanted to ask people who seem like they know. If you're on a thread about this I guess you know your stuff.

Plz ignore rather than be rude thank you

I don't use reddit, so I can't answer that one. As I said, we spend most of our time on here slagging off the government. The only commonality is that we all really hate Labour. I'm sure you'll pick it up if you read a few threads.

Well, only a week to go.

We shall see, no point speculating.

Pity we can’t introduce a sticky, asking all newbs.

Why is Starmer the least popular PM - ON RECORD.
&
Why is Reeves the least popular Chancellor - ON RECORD.

Ok, well I don't believe that the £22BN black hole that Labour made a song and dance about actually existed. Neither do the OBR.
If there was a discrepancy, Labour tacked on other things such as PS pay rises. Labour announced a £22BN carbon capture scheme within a week of announcing that the tories had left a black hole of exactly the same size. They also paid off train drivers and junior doctors. I hope that explains my scepticism of the existence of a black hole.

Labour's first budget was an epic disaster that took out businesses at the knees, hence the rise in unemployment, and masses of insolvencies. This has also impacted things like food prices which are inflationary. They have actively stifled growth, and extinguished confidence in our economy. We now have a crisis in the jobs market, particularly for young people, and the housing market is stalling due to economic conditions.

Most people on this side of the debate would agree that there needs to be a massive reduction in state spending to balance the books, alongside measures to stimulate growth.

Nope. You were already a full on cynic by the time we started these threads. Hold your head high. 😂

With the best will in the world, the Tories if they get into government in the next GE, won’t be promising us sunlit uplands - but they won’t fuck up fiscally to this level. And they won’t set out to destroy small entrepreneurs for the sake of benefit claimants with ADHD and low self esteem. Or try to crush farmers. So that’s good.

Go to site stuff where a 'newbie' is moaning to MNHQ about being bullied because she does not like what's being discussed.

Haha 😂
I was pre GE cynic. Apparently it’s the cause of Starmer’s downfall 😬