Labour isn't working - Thread 20

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙* *

We are bracing for the budget. 😬

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5443813-labour-isnt-working-thread-19?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

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And now we are suffering.

Rachel Reeves dropped more heavy hints about a 'mansion tax' as she urged Labour MPs to celebrate the Budget hammering the wealthy.
The Chancellor talked up a war on the 'rich' as she wooed restive backbenchers ahead of the crucial fiscal statement next week.

maybe this year will see more than 257,000 productive Brit’s leave…

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Um are people in this post pro-tory? As in the they had no issue with the pervious 14 years or their rule? thanks

Spot on 🎯

Eh?
This thread is about the current government.

No, it really isn't. He's polling about 3% in front of Reform. You'd want to have somewhere like Tottenham to be sure of a win but I don't see Lammy budging over.

I have to say that I don’t mind about Starmer trying to win votes with various stock descriptions - they all do it. He’s been knighted - his toolmaker dad (however present he may or may not
have been) must be key to reminding people in Labour that he wasn’t brought up with a lawyer father and a flower arranging mother.

He’s quite a good example of social mobility and the way the Tory leadership hopefuls did EXACTLY the same thing in that toecurling tv debate where Boris mentioned his Turkish immigrant grandfather to try to row back his public school background for non Tory voters and Rory Stewart theatrically tore off his tie (having planned this weeks before and told the mike lady to put the microphone on his lapel instead so it wouldn’t get ripped off too) etc etc. Rishi Sunak talking up his teen job as a waiter etc.

the fuckers all play to the audience - and they are all trying to appeal to the working class vote and to a degree the young. The rags to riches trope is one they ALL want to wheel out, however spurious the claims.

Yes, are people in this thread pro-tory then?

I am being genuine, I dont know much about politics. I have read a lot about the tories being horrendous- so I'm wondering how to people who are anti labour think? Are they anti labour put also anti tory?
Just trying to understand

Yep it’s mostly London now that’s red. And even then

Oh, yes, Lammy - I remember him.🤔

Unless I missed something, he and his giant brain/mouth combo have been MIA for the past few days. Has he been locked in a broom cupboard somewhere to save him from himself (or Labour from him)?

I’m pro Tory now.

I voted Labour last time. And what a fucking mistake that was. Sunak and Hunt were just pulling it all together after Covid and Brexit and Ukraine and Inflation. It was all calming down. Inflation was lower, the economy was growing, the job market was steady.

and now look at it. Who could make certainly 10.5 years of Tory crapness worse? Rachel Reeves! That’s who.

ETA - I know there were 14 years of a Conservative government but I don’t agree every year was shocking.

Probably scrapping with a taxi somewhere.

I suppose it makes a change from being told we're all Reform voters.

This is what I find interesting. Yes, London is the only red area left on the map. Yet it's going to be mainly London tax if/when they go ahead with council tax/ mansion tax /whatever property tax. How stupid one can be to hit your only remaining support base?
It's very unlikely for London to support Reform so it's likely to become blue? Don't think LibDems can pull it here.

I think it just helps to be practical about these things. The conservative government wasn't the dream team of what I wanted but Sunak and Hunt were engineering a growth of sorts and with that, unemployment was low, inflation was lowering, taxes were steady. That sounds fucking fantastic to my ear now after watching Reeves hobble businesses up and down the land, fuelling unemployment and engineering inflation in our most basic of needs - food, and jazzing out the bond markets by failing to cut welfare, this demanding that we all pay more tax to paper over her incompetence . I could go on, but everyone else has heard it all before.

I'm new to the forum... are you unable to answer my questions?

I know I can google this, but the Sunak period was after the pandemic? So that was effective..

London will never again be ‘Conservative’. Mayor or most boroughs within.

This is interesting - shows changing demographics over time.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/London_ethnic_demographics_from_1961_to_2021.gif

You're pretty hostile do you not realise? I do'nt know everything you know, so I asked.

Oh listen, it's one thing not to want to read 20 threads but I'm not playing google for you.

Just ignore. MN said we are allowed ;)

So these threads are designed as echo chambers for everyone who already agrees. You should put that in the title. Here I was thinking I could learn something here