Holly Ramsay hen fallout

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15275975/holly-ramsay-fiance-adam-peatys-ban-mother-wedding-hen-party.html

Hmm, I have 2 theories:

1. She didn't think his mum fit in her shallow aesthetic, based on the photos I've seen of the guests and the do as a whole.
2. His mum doesn't necessarily approve of the partnership- looking at the timeline described in the article, from when they met to when they apparently got together, I wouldn't be surprised if his mum had sided more with the mother of his child.

Before anyone says, if you don't know who they are, read the article. Yes there are more important things to worry about in the world, I can think about more than one thing at a time.
This is purely my opinion, so hopefully I can't be sued.

Isn't Holly also an (ex) alcoholic? I don't know much about this sort of stuff but is 2 alcoholics getting together a good idea? Obviously you can't help who you fall in love with but I just wondered if AA discouraged it? Does it make a relapse more likely?

The groom”s family are so tacky and vulgar.

And the bride's isn't? Her dad is the epitome of vulgar, he's built a career on being vulgar!

And I thought that before I even read about the public indecency charge from the public toilets incident. Never heard of that before today. Googled it as couldn't believe it was true. Grim. And it takes you down a whole rabbit hole of rumours around GR which are even worse!

Quite but Adam and Holly appear to be in recovery. You don’t need money to access recovery - AA and NA are free. You do need to commit to the 12 step programme though which is a long process and takes determination and commitment to see it through and many fall off the wagon.

We don’t know Adam hasn’t tried to help his brother with paid for programmes. If he has and brother hasn’t stuck to them that may be an issue. Apart from anything else addicts can’t be around users.

Given his parents’ input into his success I’d think something fairly major has happened behind the scenes for this to be the result.

Staying classy all round

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15289125/Adam-Peatys-mother-shock-new-ally.html

Archive version (not paywalled): https://archive.ph/Z8Ht5

'I know what's it like to be bullied by the Ramsay cult': How Adam Peaty's mother has found shock new ally in war with her son and his in-laws... Gordon's 'mistress' Sarah - as she reveals 'truths' they bonded over

Spot on I think. When belief & value systems at odds a rocky road ahead.

AP’s mother’s loyalty to the problematic, unstable brothers also seems to be at heart. Going to a ‘public eye’ wedding & blending families in this regard an issue. AP’s unease here may be well placed.

If this is true, Peaty’s mum is doing a grand job of solidifying this rift by replying to and getting validation from people like this. The only person she should be seeking to speak to is her son, to try and resolve whatever has gone on.

I said on a previous thread about when kids go no-contact with their parents: there could be a million reasons a (n adult child) may be angry with or want to cut off their parents. The parents may not agree with those reasons, or they may remember things differently, which happens. That’s life. What’s important is how they react to their (adult) child’s distress and complaints. If they are open, empathetic and communicate with maturity and understanding, genuinely apologetic for their part in it, then a resolution will be had and the relationship will move on stronger.

If they react with hitting back, getting other people to attack, posting passive aggressive nonsense and acting like they’re a hard done by victim, well…you’ll only seek to alienate your kids further.

Mrs Peaty, whatever has gone on, one of your children is hurt by your actions. Stop lashing out and maybe try and listen to them. However I fear it might be too late now after the circus of the last few days.

Well I'm willing to adjust my first impressions.
It seems there is blame both sides. It's quite likely his mums has been torn between the brothers.

Could it be Nicola P’s parents also think they are a cut above economically & socially than Beckhams? Does the father, Nelson (?) dote on his wife? No affairs? Although I think N’s Mum a second wife . So Brooklyn is seeing different values modelled?

That said the leaked wedding planning messages so a ruthless, superior not v classy lot re: Peltz fam if that’s indicative. The difference poss too that Nicola’s Mum keeps her socials private I think & on the down low. Billionaire families often try to avoid controversy & scrutiny, it doesn’t suit to have rivals & tax people sniffing about, although Nicola’s career as hopeful actress may be at odds with that.

VB is very aspirational too so this may have rubbed off on Brooklyn. A case of be careful what you wish for. I often think our kids teach us difficult lessons.

I agree with this. Whatever has gone on, and I by no means understimate problems of marrying into a public family, the point you contact the media directly and try and shame your son publicly right before his wedding - is the point of no return.

Even if they were entirely in the right - if they ever wanted to reconcile with him this has demolished that possibility.

It doesn’t say Adam Peaty’s mother has responded to this, mind you.

Just that Gordon Ramsay’s alleged ‘former mistress’ (ugh) has ‘reached out’. (Also: how??)

So actually Mrs Peaty may be as shocked as anyone.

To add, I’ve been Adam in this scenario before, albeit not played out in public. It is traumatic having your parents lash out and get other people on “their side” attacking and slagging you off. Not to mention the threats of violence.

I hope Adam has a good support network around him. He’s struggled with his mental health in the past, and this will be triggering for him. It’ll be hard enough dealing with this but to have it played out so publicly and having all and sundry slagging him off online (as demonstrated in the DM comments, and on this thread), will be incredibly hard to deal with. I for one hope he and Holly are ok and can try and enjoy their wedding despite all of this happening. Not the best start to married life, but I’m sure with the right support, they’ll get through it and things will become calmer in time.

It does say she’s responded to it. It says they have spoken.

"Home. The place where, when everything else has failed and you have no friends left, they have to let you in". Can't remember who I'm quoting but Mr Peaty should probably keep it in mind.

It does say she’s replied.

A case of a not very educated woman, AP’s mother, being manipulated by the Press. Sad.

It wouldn’t bother me in the slightest if either of my son’s fiancé’s didn’t invite me to a hen do, but the clothes thing is a different matter. It’s bad enough when you hear about women’s partners telling them what they should and shouldn’t wear. Even worse in this case! The amount of disrespect shown by a dil/son even daring to make a negative comment about the mother’s outfit, let alone telling them that it needs to be approved by them is downright disgusting. I feel very sorry for Adam’s mother.

I just had a look on Caroline Peaty's Insta. There's a post from last December wishing Holly a happy birthday and saying she's really looking forward to her joining the family and having more of the good times they've had up to now.

So the former mistress says, I’d take it all with a pinch of salt. Even at a push maybe mistress made a comment and Adam’s mum has commented “thanks” or similar not having a clue who she is. and now the mistress is desperate for a bit of publicity and maybe getting paid by the newspaper.

Would you know Gordon Ramsay’s mistresses name? I wouldn’t even after just reading an article about her.

Pardon the pun, but I wouldn't know her from Adam.

There are different degrees of ‘toxic and dysfunctional’. Adam Peaty has taken responsibility for his mental health, sought and engaged with treatment. He wasn’t sending death threats to his sibling and their partner, and/or getting arrested for harassing them. Had he been, the sibling on the receiving end of his ire would have been quite justified in cutting contact.

There’s a difference also between a good coach/a stage parent and a good parent. Did they do that for him, or because of what they envisioned his success doing for them? Was he driven to succeed because it was a means to escape his family? We don’t know. We also don’t know that he hasn’t offered support or to pay for his sibling’s treatment. Hell, was his sibling even open to treatment? All the support in the world is meaningless if the person you’re offering it to doesn’t think they have a problem and doesn’t want it.

Why do you believe anything printed in that rag? Also why do you care?

I’d say that depends on the dress tbh. Everyone criticizing this seems to be imagining that she bought a classic and appropriate mother of the groom outfit, when for all we know she could have gone full bridal, funereal, or stripper (or even sad stripper at her Vegas nuptials, for a combination of the three).

Adams mum has been on various chat shows with him and in this photo to Buckingham Palace to watch him collect his MBE. She's never dressed like a Vegas stripper on a hen do during any of those occasions. I know people will now suggest she was probably planning to wear a wedding dress herself to upstage Holly but I have a feeling if that were the case we'd have had it leaked heard it from the Peaty/Ramsey PRs.

Maybe the problem with her dress wasn’t that it was bad but that they or he felt she should have a better dress than she could afford so it was a kind gesture rather than a mean one.

But then it turned into a mess because trains in one story or a location she didn’t want in another story or maybe a completely different bloody truth and it’s like ahh fuck sake over a dress wish I’d never bothered.

Im sure another 5 versions will be printed in the next few days 😅