Holly Ramsay hen fallout

[Mookie81]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15275975/holly-ramsay-fiance-adam-peatys-ban-mother-wedding-hen-party.html

Hmm, I have 2 theories:

1. She didn't think his mum fit in her shallow aesthetic, based on the photos I've seen of the guests and the do as a whole.
2. His mum doesn't necessarily approve of the partnership- looking at the timeline described in the article, from when they met to when they apparently got together, I wouldn't be surprised if his mum had sided more with the mother of his child.

Before anyone says, if you don't know who they are, read the article. Yes there are more important things to worry about in the world, I can think about more than one thing at a time.
This is purely my opinion, so hopefully I can't be sued.

I can’t imagine the police would turn up at the airport if they didn’t think there was an issue

Weren't they just airport police rather than blues and twos?

They must have been serious enough for the police to arrest him in

Airport police are still police. They're not some plastic police. Same as British Transport Police are real police

Not sure what "just" airport police means? They are Met police officers (if he flew into London), otherwise attached to their regular force and most of them are armed! They are not some pretend or play police force, in fact, I think it would be more terrifying to be arrested by them, rather than the regular police.

Sounds like Adam is getting too big for his boots he is only marrying into the Ramsey family it’s not as if they are aristocracy 😂

What I find really strange, in this age where literally everyone carries a phone which takes photos and videos, is that there has not been one photo or video uploaded of Adam Peaty being escorted off a plane and through Manchester airport by 5 armed police officers. Not even one newspaper has a picture

Good point!

Certainly is. Wonder how it got into the public domain.

Could easily be from a source within the police, or by someone from the airport.

That said, I’m not seeing the problem if it was from the Ramsays. The Peaty’s took this public to start with, and are continuing to spin a ‘the Ramsay’s are rich and horrible, we’re just honest working class people that haven’t done anything wrong’ narrative in the press in order to spoil their family member’s wedding. Why shouldn’t they respond?

It is interesting that the father has responded by accusing Adam of lacking empathy for the brother that’s been arrested for sending death threats. As if the problem here is his refusal to accept that abuse, not the brother’s actions.

No issue if the Adam or the Ramsey's wish to tell (or leak) their side of things. It's the nature of the beast that each side is obviously going to want to present themselves as looking best or most hard done by. And they probably both feel they are "right" in their actions.

It's just interesting that Adam and Holly are being appuladed for their dignified silence and Caroline lambasted for talking to the press (which I don't think was the right thing to do). I would say both sides are playing the same game, but some better than others.

I don't feel I know enough about the nature of the threats or the headspace of the person who made them to comment.

Well no, they aren’t playing the same game. The Peaty’s didn’t need to make this public or go to the press spinning a narrative in the first place, especially not when they knew full well this would overshadow and/or even ruin the wedding of the relative they claim to love and want a relationship with. The Ramsay’s aren’t the ones that did that.

We know they were considered serious enough for the brother to be arrested and released on conditional bail. His headspace doesn’t justify his actions, and nor does it oblige the person on the receiving end to accept his behavior. As I said, it’s telling that their problem is with Adam Peaty not tolerating it, rather than with the brother for behaving like that in the first place.

Problem is if a sibling sends a non literal text saying “I could kill you for upsetting mum” if the recipient makes an official complaint the police have to investigate it which will mean arresting /interviewing the sender. If the cps decide it’s not in the public interest to prosecute it’ll go away. Otherwise it’ll go to court and the sender will have to defend himself by saying he didn’t mean it.

I never said that anything justified making threats but until we know the nature of them I'm not forming a judgement either way. Loads of other posters have also pointed out a threat could mean anything. Wasn't Graham Linehan arrested at Heathrow recently for making threats, that then ended up being thrown out.

Yes agree the Peaty's threw the first stone but according to the article in the DM Ramsey's PR lady spend hours at the house with Adam earlier this week and I doubt they were discussing the weather. Which is fine, Adam and the Ramsey bunch are allowed a right to reply if that's what they want but he can't judge his family for spinning stories if he then going to do the same thing.

And of course the Ramseys/Adam are going to the press. They’re just being more subtle. Or how do the press find out about the brother being arrested and about Adam being “escorted” off the plane by 5 police officers. They’re absolutely playing the same game. Just one side has a good PR firm.

I think there is far more to it than this. I just don’t believe the tugging of the forelock “we’re working class folk” that is coming from the Peaty’s side.

He can absolutely judge his family for creating this situation and continuing to fan the flames. For people so apparently grieved by the estrangement, they’re knowingly and willingly engaging in behavior that will cements it.

Yes this is what I meant.

Yes, he totally can.
And then he can be choose to engage his Christian values, by doing better than what he judges his family for and not lower himself to engaging in the same behaviour he apparently finds so abhorant in his family. And that includes not engaging the Ramsey's PR people to spring any leaks from their side.
Time will tell how that one plays out.

It could have course been the Ramsays. Journalists also have sources within the police and airports.

Defence is a different game to attack. The Ramsay’s PR is responding to a situation the Peaty family chose to create and continue to feed. The Peaty’s chose to attack in order to invite public opprobrium towards their son and his in laws in the run up to the wedding.

Aka ‘you have to suck up what I’m dishing out, but as soon as you respond I’ll whine and play victim’. How convenient.

I’m not sure how demonstrating that there’s more to the story than the Peaty’s would have the public believe constitutes ‘engaging in the same behavior’.

The Ramsay’s PR didn’t make the brother behave in a way that got him arrested for harassment. If the Peaty family didn’t want the public finding out about the brother’s arrest then they should have thought better of drawing attention to their family.

You’re quite possibly right. I do accept nobody knows what happens behind closed doors and he could potentially just be recognising a toxic family.

Aka ‘you have to suck up what I’m dishing out, but as soon as you respond I’ll whine and play victim’. How convenient.

No idea what this means but if I'm distraught because my mum sells a story about me to the Daily Mail and then I leak a story about them to the Daily Mail, albeit through my PR team that would be a smidge hypocrital in my book.

The Ramsay’s PR didn’t make the brother behave in a way that got him arrested for harassment.

Course they didn't, I don't think I ever suggested they did.

If that's the case then he might be jumping from the frying pan to the fire.

I think this sums it up. If they really cared about him and wanted to make up they wouldn't be giving interviews and posting crap over Instagram. They've basically made it impossible for him to have any further relationship with them, but all by their actions. People are weird.