Labour isn't working - Thread 18

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

Bracing for the budget 😬

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Me neither..it moves too quick for me!

Wonder if they truly believe the shite they spout?

Afternoon! Catching up with the new thread, Thanks muchly @TheNuthatch

So, decorating finished, carpet picked and it's being fitted this week. All things being equal, I will be moving at the end of the month😀

Thank you for the new thread @TheNuthatch !

Godamighty, this really could turn into a complete car crash. This will scupper so many private works pensions. The public sector will not be affected.😡
(excerpt from Sky Money)
Tax raid on pension contributions coming in budget, reports suggest - here's what it would mean for you
The chancellor is set to trim tax breaks on salary sacrifice schemes that allow workers to make pension contributions without paying national insurance.
Rachel Reeves is expected to cap tax-free sacrifices at £2,000 a year, according to reports.
Staff putting away any more than that would have to pay the standard NI rate: 8% if they earn less than £50,000 and 2% above that.
The plan would also limit an existing exemption for firms offering salary sacrifice schemes, which currently allows them to offer generous employer contributions.
Companies currently don't have to pay the 15% employer national insurance tax on cash that goes into workers' pensions.
A person earning more than £125,000 who sacrificed 20% could pay £460 more, while their employer could pay £3,450 more, according to accountancy firm RSM.
Those on lower salaries would face a much smaller hit. A worker earning £45,000 and sacrificing 5% would pay £30 more, while their employer would pay £34 more.

Yep. We're in slash and burn territory now. They know they won't get re-elected so they've hit the fuck it button.
All of this was predictable after the first car crash budget.

Enjoy your new home upsee. I hope you like paint colours and carpet when you see them together.

1772 migrants have crossed the channel in the last few days. How many barracks is that? 🤔

Another migrant deported under Starmer's one-in-one out scheme has returned on a small boat.

The migrants aren't like regular immigration where people have to sort themselves out and as such will blend in unnoticed (okay minus long term issues like ghettoisation etc).
The migrants, housed together as they are and entirely dependent, have an inordinately large impact on wherever they're accommodated.

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I think Starmer and Reeves still believe they can win the next election. They are absolutely on a different planet to the country.
Another lie told by Labour : Pat Mcfadden said on Television all cabinet members are state educated, Starmer was educated Privately when Royal Grammar Guildford lost its Direct Grammar Status with Surrey County Council paying the fees !

The policy changes and tax hikes are what they have been dreaming about since their first weeks of Lower Sixth..

Reeves is following the doctrine engaged by her parents from the age of 10. This evidenced by her Teacher Parents both Rachel and Ellie to a Shit' school rather than the Grammar. This kind of indoctrination is endemic in all of Reeves thinking jealousy and envy is at the core, wrapped around 'Fairness' apparently !

Remarkable. Going well then.

However, the cabinet is not a great endorsement for the qualities and standards of State Education is it !

Sending both Rachel and Ellie to the 'Sec' and not the Grammar for their own twisted ideological reasons..

I read today that many Labour MPs including Lucy Powell are telling Reeves she mustn’t break the mainifesto pledge with her tax rises. I wonder at what point she actually decides what she’s doing in the budget.

I think the barracks will be full just with the new arrivals won’t they? They only have four earmarked.

Jeez. If this cabinet is supposed to be an advertisement for state education I’d sack the ad agency immediately.

It’s more like a ‘70s public information film warning about the dangers of rugs on polished floors, playing around deep water or voting in clueless dipshits.

You are not allowed to say 'Secondary Modern' on Mumsnet it is outlawed ....

Pretty much, it takes a few days to fill them. If they’re set up at all.

I’m not sure they are yet, gotta make them nice 😊

@SamHain25 some of them really do believe in what they're saying yes

Particularly with the BBC, my mother was upset when I said I was cancelling my license, but she genuinely thought it was against the law! They've peddled so much misinformation about it. There have been threads where people are adamant that you can't possibly meet all the conditions for not using a license

But actually, if you don't watch sport and you don't watch news, it's very easy.

actually, at one stage there were quite a few websites where you could apparently watch football with a few minutes delay - obviously football is massively split in terms of what's televised and where, and I think a lot of the clubs have their own channels so maybe that's not a thing anymore

I heard that from a group of lads in my old building. I don't watch football - just making an observation. I think the BBC have relied on their reputation for news for a very long time.

All BBC dramas tend to get sold on to other channels anyway. I do actually think they could survive on a subscription model.

@SpaceRaccoon from your comments I'm guessing you too have the experience of living within walking distance of these hotels. I find it quite strange that anger hasn't erupted about this much earlier.

There have been threads where people are adamant that you can't possibly meet all the conditions for not using a license

I've been arguing with a determined fuckwit this morning, who even contradicted the TV licensing website with her insistence at what you can and can't watch without a licence!

They also will have to deal with pissed off locals.

I see none of the Labour lot have put up their hands for barracks nearby. Funny that.

Chancellor due on 5Live shortly if anyone feels like a spot of self-flagellation…

I don’t think I can bear to.

@EmeraldRoulette I'm in an area that's about to get a barracks full, that's apparently somehow better/different to a hotel full according to Labour though so who knows, perhaps it'll be marvelous.

@NoWordForFluffy they always do that.

Actually, I asked, when I cancelled the license, what happens if I watch a BBC clip that's been embedded into Twitter. They didn't know the answer. I decided there was no need to watch those. Possibly that lady snd her facial expression would be worth watching.

but clearly, there are tons of people prepared to pay a license or they'd be prepared to pay a subscription so I actually don't know what they're panicking about ... oh wait a minute actually I do 😂