Huntingdon was a lone wolf attack

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Confirmed by police about half an hour ago that the 35 year old arrested has been released without charge.

I said below I use Islamic state terrorists not Muslims even which upset you.

You haven’t called anything out.

People react differently. I wouldnt assume anything.

Who closed all the mental hospitals (reducing number of beds from 100,000 to under 20,000)? Who coined the phrase 'Care in the Community'?

I’m glad to hear they’ve done that.

This is exactly what decades of underfunding lead to.

On the full up thread, Netzero made a perfectly valid comment, which she explained as 'social media stokes misinformation, fear & hatred. Let’s not forget that the vast majority of immigrants are good people who work hard & contribute to the economy.'

It was in response to you and thedevil conflating asylum seekers with terror.

Apparently telling Muslims that they need to speak out is fine but Netzero saying social media stokes misinformation is a terrible thing to say after a stabbing. Go figure.

And my quote?

I found some of the posts focusing on SM instead of the mass attack misplaced as it’s an easy choice, I know what would terrify me more.

I don’t get the need to focus on SM over actual violence.

That was the point of the post. You seem to have misunderstood.

Because they can't. The law has to sort these things out, not politicians. It is for the courts to decide if the man is legally sane or not after taking advice and evidence from experts.

The conflation is with male violence and uncontrolled immigration of thousands of undocumented men.

We know male violence is an issue. What do you suppose adding tens of thousands of men to communities does to that risk factor?

I advocate profusely for women and child asylum seekers to be given priority. This is not a race or an ethnicity issue. It’s a male issue.

Your quotes

"They shouldn’t be free to walk around our streets within hours of illegally entering."

"Nothing is being done. People are angry.
It’s that simple. It’s not “right wingers stupidly believing social media fake news”
It’s pure frustration and desperation of people not being listened to and seeing their community being murdered, raped, and having less and less recourse to things the rest of the country take for granted. For example, health care, education, playgrounds safe to play in…
If you keep ignoring them, they will keep getting angry."

"Just because you live in a Tory enclave cushioned from the worst effects of uncontrolled immigration, it doesn’t make you a superior person."

They all relate to male violence.

@Nomasso far nothing you’ve attributed to my posts is what I was actually thinking.

I know my views. They are that I think some people are more horrified by an mn thread than the attack and I find that misplaced.

What about the quote where I said “it’s a male violence issue not a race issue”?

How does focusing on immigrants help the victims of the attack?

It was brought up in the conversation… like you have done here.

No one has said that. The poster said she finds social media scarier than immigration. No one has said the attack isn't horrifying.

But that's what Netzero did, brought up in conversation that social media is scary. Not sure why you found it 'disgusting' that she said that?

This exchange is so bloody confusing. Why are you making such a fuss??

I’m agreeing with the post directly before about SM. I don’t think it can ever be worse than the actual attack and I sometimes find people hyper focusing on posts rather than violent acts difficult to see.

(I don’t think I used the term immigrants in any post on
that thread btw. There was a separate question about asylum which I answered re mothers and daughters from Sudan.)

Do you agree the actual attack is worse than mn threads?

I was horrified by the SM stuff because of what it might lead to. Like in the aftermath of Southport.

I was so utterly horrified by the attack to the point it was verging on a panic attack. As a PTSD sufferer (,I'm obviously just not tough enough as a PP suggested) who can't deal with being trapped, I always viewed trains as being as safe form of transport (in that I can get off whenever I want/need to). That's changed that outlook entirely.

I was and remain completely sympathetic with all of the victims involved, both those injured and those who witnessed it. I didn't really mention it yesterday because to be honest I thought it was obviously how most people would think.

Politicians provide the resources to help keep the system running as it should. You don’t need to commit a crime to be detained but you do need someone who has skills and knowledge of you as an individual to assess and predict what risks there are to you and others and to know what to do about it. We should have a working system that would largely be able to prevent these things from happening.

Sky news reporting that he stabbed a 14 year old boy the night before the train stabbings. Boy thankfully treated in hospital and released shortly afterwards. Perpetrator has been named and appeared at Peterborough court.

Given the offender was Afro-Caribbean, I wouldn't expect them to change their opinions

NestingBirds said talking about social media being worse than immigration when innocents have died is disgusting and you said you agree with her, so you found it disgusting too.

It's possible to be both horrified by the attack and to be horrified by the blaming of Muslims and immigrants on social media. Injury is worse than words but the words on social media are leading to injuries to Muslims and immigrants.

“Uncontrolled social media than immigration”

Again, you’re missing out key parts. No one stated all immigration.
Uncontrolled immigration has meant a huge influx of undocumented males which makes a huge increase in risk of male violence.

Are you meaning to be so sneaky or is genuine carelessness?