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Huntingdon was a lone wolf attack

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WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 02/11/2025 18:01

Confirmed by police about half an hour ago that the 35 year old arrested has been released without charge.

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EasternStandard · 03/11/2025 13:00

nomas · 03/11/2025 12:54

It's been repeatedly explained that the police rescinded Plato on Saturday night, soon after arresting Anthony Williams.

But it didn't stop the unfounded posts about Muslims and the demands they speak out.

I don’t want Muslims to speak out. I haven’t posted or thought that so you’re talking about other posters.

I also don’t want people to forget major attacks such as Bastille and German markets and London terrorist attacks as in pp. It’s better to learn from them and put things in place.

nomas · 03/11/2025 13:01

wordler · 02/11/2025 19:29

Eye witnesses are often mistaken by what they are seeing because of adrenaline and letting their brain fill in gaps.

If you remember the killing of Jean Charles de Menezes who was mistakenly shot by police on the tube - the initial witnesses who streamed out of the station and talked to the press were describing a man running in a bulky coat that didn’t suit the season so might have had a device, he vaulted over the ticket barrier.

Several of them really believed that was what they had seen.

When the footage was reviewed all of that was false.

Awful.

I can't believe the Jean Charles de Menezes' family only received 100k compensation.

It should have been over a million at least.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 03/11/2025 13:01

nomas · 03/11/2025 12:55

You were deleted for telling the OP to shush / be quiet.

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i think ‘be quiet’ is still there but shush isn’t 🤣

cardibach · 03/11/2025 13:01

EasternStandard · 03/11/2025 12:52

Operation Plato does respond to marauding terrorism.

So yes when this happened initially the police put that in place. That’s a good thing.

No one so far has said otherwise, there may be some who don’t want it idk

Yes. Terrorism. They were right to do it, as I said. What’s wrong is so many assuming that meant Muslims. Plato doesn’t assume that. Why do you?

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 03/11/2025 13:02

cardibach · 03/11/2025 13:01

Yes. Terrorism. They were right to do it, as I said. What’s wrong is so many assuming that meant Muslims. Plato doesn’t assume that. Why do you?

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Because it’s statistically the most likely according to MI5

nomas · 03/11/2025 13:02

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 03/11/2025 13:01

i think ‘be quiet’ is still there but shush isn’t 🤣

Likely because OP isn't the type to report posts.

cardibach · 03/11/2025 13:03

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 03/11/2025 12:54

To hear that a man has attacked lots of people indiscriminately in public and assume it could be a terror attack is not racist.

To assume all violence perpetrated by black men is a terror attack is racist.

You can’t conflate these two things.

We can’t shy away from conversations that make us uncomfortable. It’s not how we get better. It’s not how we stop violence.

No, it’s not racist to assume it could be terror (especially when the police initially thought so). What’s racist is assuming terror = Muslims. (And also that black = Muslim which I think addresses your second point).

EasternStandard · 03/11/2025 13:04

cardibach · 03/11/2025 13:01

Yes. Terrorism. They were right to do it, as I said. What’s wrong is so many assuming that meant Muslims. Plato doesn’t assume that. Why do you?

Edited

Muslims is jarring in this context. If you are talking about that kind of terrorism usually it’s Islamic State or other terrorist organisation.

People post this stuff as if they’re interchangeable. I wouldn’t use Muslim when meaning Islamic State.

Vivi0 · 03/11/2025 13:05

placemats · 03/11/2025 12:52

It's a well known fact not everyone is capable of empathy.

There’s having empathy, and then there is diagnosing a complete stranger, who you know absolutely nothing about, with PTSD.

Maybe dial down the drama a little. Posters have been admonished all over this thread for making assumptions.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 03/11/2025 13:05

cardibach · 03/11/2025 13:03

No, it’s not racist to assume it could be terror (especially when the police initially thought so). What’s racist is assuming terror = Muslims. (And also that black = Muslim which I think addresses your second point).

Because “Islamist terrorism is the most significant terrorist threat to the UK by volume”

Huntingdon was a lone wolf attack
EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 03/11/2025 13:05

nomas · 03/11/2025 13:02

Likely because OP isn't the type to report posts.

I think we fully hashed out who were the goodies and the baddies earlier in the thread. I of course was the baddie and have acknowledged that if you look at my post before last. No need to gloat.

nomas · 03/11/2025 13:06

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 03/11/2025 13:05

I think we fully hashed out who were the goodies and the baddies earlier in the thread. I of course was the baddie and have acknowledged that if you look at my post before last. No need to gloat.

There's nothing to gloat about, I never report any posts.

cardibach · 03/11/2025 13:07

EasternStandard · 03/11/2025 12:56

When I just read about the Bastille parade mass attack it used the term Islamic State sympathiser. I don’t see many reports using Muslim.

It’s usually affiliated to the terrorist group. Surely people don’t identify with those groups anyway.

Sophistry again.
Whatever word anyone uses to suggest you assume terror = Islam is wrong. Various posters have objected to Islamic. Now Muslim isn’t good enough as a descriptor of someone who follows Islam apparently. We have to use the exact terminology of a (presumably translated) statement relating to a particular attack we weren’t even discussing.
I think you know what I’m saying. I think it applies to you. I think you (like Farage) are clever enough to word things in such a way it’s difficult to accuse you of racism by quoting them I think (also like Farage) nobody much is fooled unless they share your views.

nomas · 03/11/2025 13:08

EasternStandard · 03/11/2025 13:04

Muslims is jarring in this context. If you are talking about that kind of terrorism usually it’s Islamic State or other terrorist organisation.

People post this stuff as if they’re interchangeable. I wouldn’t use Muslim when meaning Islamic State.

Edited

That's your privilege talking.

For the Muslim girl getting her hijab ripped off or spat in the face, the differentiation between Islamist or Muslim doesn't help her.

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 03/11/2025 13:08

I’m not going to sit here and report people for telling me to be quiet. I’m not a fucking wet wipe n

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cardibach · 03/11/2025 13:09

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 03/11/2025 13:02

Because it’s statistically the most likely according to MI5

That’s not grounds to assume it every time. Especially, in this case, those who continued to do so after the police a) said they didn’t believe it was terrorism and b) announced the ethnic origin of the arrested suspects.

EasternStandard · 03/11/2025 13:09

cardibach · 03/11/2025 13:07

Sophistry again.
Whatever word anyone uses to suggest you assume terror = Islam is wrong. Various posters have objected to Islamic. Now Muslim isn’t good enough as a descriptor of someone who follows Islam apparently. We have to use the exact terminology of a (presumably translated) statement relating to a particular attack we weren’t even discussing.
I think you know what I’m saying. I think it applies to you. I think you (like Farage) are clever enough to word things in such a way it’s difficult to accuse you of racism by quoting them I think (also like Farage) nobody much is fooled unless they share your views.

Yes use the language that denotes terrorism, someone that is connected to a terrorist organisation. An example is Islamic State.

It’s not helpful to interchange with Muslim since they likely don’t have those connections.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 03/11/2025 13:10

nomas · 03/11/2025 13:06

There's nothing to gloat about, I never report any posts.

That’s because you are one of the goodies.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 03/11/2025 13:11

nomas · 03/11/2025 13:08

That's your privilege talking.

For the Muslim girl getting her hijab ripped off or spat in the face, the differentiation between Islamist or Muslim doesn't help her.

Just like you can’t attribute jihadi terrorist attacks on all Muslims, you can’t attribute all Islamophobia, misogynistic or racist attacks like that on people who are concerned with terrorism.

cardibach · 03/11/2025 13:11

EasternStandard · 03/11/2025 13:04

Muslims is jarring in this context. If you are talking about that kind of terrorism usually it’s Islamic State or other terrorist organisation.

People post this stuff as if they’re interchangeable. I wouldn’t use Muslim when meaning Islamic State.

Edited

You’re doing it again. I used Muslims because Islamic has been criticised. It’s definitely the case that Islamist terrorists are also Muslims. Nothing in my post suggests I think all Muslims feel like this. There doesn’t seem to be a word you are happy to accept - is that because it’s easier to find fault with the vocabulary than answer the question?

nomas · 03/11/2025 13:11

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 03/11/2025 13:10

That’s because you are one of the goodies.

Thank you! ❤

EasternStandard · 03/11/2025 13:11

cardibach · 03/11/2025 13:11

You’re doing it again. I used Muslims because Islamic has been criticised. It’s definitely the case that Islamist terrorists are also Muslims. Nothing in my post suggests I think all Muslims feel like this. There doesn’t seem to be a word you are happy to accept - is that because it’s easier to find fault with the vocabulary than answer the question?

What do you want to know exactly?

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 03/11/2025 13:12

cardibach · 03/11/2025 13:09

That’s not grounds to assume it every time. Especially, in this case, those who continued to do so after the police a) said they didn’t believe it was terrorism and b) announced the ethnic origin of the arrested suspects.

If you hear a woman has been murdered in her own home, do you assume a male partner probably did it?

rriffraff · 03/11/2025 13:13

There was a man with a knife arrested in Faversham last night as well

https://metro.co.uk/2025/11/02/moment-armed-police-tackle-knifeman-25-ground-faversham-kent-24594665/

Knife crime offences recorded by the police in England and Wales have risen by approximately one-third (around 33%) since 2010, and by 80% over the last decade (since around 2014)

Whatever the cause is of this rise it is becoming commonplace to hear of this sort of attack, it is very worrying and it doesn't seem to be being tackled in a meaningful way.

Moment armed police tackle 'knifeman', 25, to the ground in Faversham, Kent

The 25-year-old was shown on a social media clip being chased by officers down a street in a housing estate in Faversham.

https://metro.co.uk/2025/11/02/moment-armed-police-tackle-knifeman-25-ground-faversham-kent-24594665/

cardibach · 03/11/2025 13:14

EasternStandard · 03/11/2025 13:11

What do you want to know exactly?

The question in the post you responded to. Screenshot to help you out.

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