Stabbing in a train in Huntingdon

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cm2zvjx1z14t

2 arrested. I can't imagine how awful this was for the victims

I conclude many here are being paid to make the general public doubt their instincts.

Don't fall for it.

Trust your instincts.

Here are the largest UK terrorist attacks by deaths since 2000:

Attack DateDeaths (victims)
London bombings (7/7)
7 July 2005
52

Manchester Arena bombing
22 May 2017
22

London Bridge and Borough Market attack
3 June 2017
8

Westminster Bridge attack
22 March 2017
5 (plus the attacker)

Reading park attack
20 June 2020
3

London Bridge stabbing
29 November 2019
2 (plus the attacker)

Murder of Jo Cox MP
16 June 2016
1

Finsbury Park attack
19 June 2017
1

Woolwich (Lee Rigby murder)
22 May 2013
1

grandparents so we are going back a few generations … I think most of us could be tracked back to immigration and I’m white.

Strange how people went straight to the geography of the attack when it was on a train moving from the north of England to the south- well London. I know the route well it has few stops. This one apparently started in Doncaster then it would stop at Wakefield then Peterborough, where it was thought the attackers boarded. The attack happened soon after leaving Peterborough and the train made emergency stop at nearby Huntington close to a hospital. It’s a very regular service sometimes starting from Edinburgh most often Leeds and in this case further down at Doncaster.

Football hooligans fight each other, if at all. These were in black. The train was short. Terrifying. It seemed planned maybe two but possibly one mentally ill person. Or a fanatic with a vengeance. Bad news massively sympathy for all those involved.
I heard a child, girl was about to be attacked and an oldish man put himself in the way and was stabbed in the head. Luckily it seems there are no deaths but at least one seriously injured. The psychological damage will be massive. Very bad news.

Reeves has form, of course.

Do you think the UK had no human rights before the ECHR existed?

Our values were used to create the damned monster it has grown into.

Yes, like so many “random” attacks.

It’s horrifying that so many racial attacks against white people are labelled as “random” and not identified as what they are.

I lived in a volatile country for 3 years where riots, martial law and targeted killings were the norm and I came out of it with chronic PTSD so no - I would not recommend riots.

I just can’t stomach the posters on here gleefully speculating that it was football supporters . And then trying the “nothing to see here, don’t speculate” line - even though they were speculating away that it was a couple of Newcastle fans (!) and then moving on to we must all keep quiet.

Never mind the victims, very sad and all that, but best brushed under the carpet.

They didn’t actually. They retracted that statement. They have said Terrorist police are investigating it. That is not the same thing.

So you think the fact that the 7/7 murderers were born here means that their idealogy to commit such heinous crimes was based in British culture?

Yep. I am 45, born in Britain, my Mum is American, my Dad is Welsh. Most of my family is Irish / American. But I guess that’s okay because I’m the “good” kind of immigrant type background (white). 🙄

Nothing is being done. People are angry.

It’s that simple. It’s not “right wingers stupidly believing social media fake news”

It’s pure frustration and desperation of people not being listened to and seeing their community being murdered, raped, and having less and less recourse to things the rest of the country take for granted. For example, health care, education, playgrounds safe to play in…

If you keep ignoring them, they will keep getting angry.

@Negroany you replied to my post about my fears. Like I said visiting NI during the 80s & 90s put my life in London is perspective. That was my experience, you are entitled to yours of course.

Which posters are you referring to, please?

I don’t see it, personally.

We don’t need to listen to the EU. We’re actually defending our country. And France would do exactly the same was it the other way round. We’re doing nothing wrong. Just returning the people to where they came from. France have been getting an easy ride - people turning up there, and then just offloaded to us. Maybe they need to start to be pro-active their end….

Err you ve totally mis understood me, i was referring to towing boats back to France, that would carry economic consequence.

Leaving the ECHR wont solve anything, we belong to plenty of other treaties and have embedded domestic law plus it does nothing to solve the issue when a country refuses to take back a migrant.

Germany has no intention of leaving the ECHR and the 2 countries currently deporting the most migrants is Sweden and Denmark, neither are going to leave the ECHR.

They aren't entering illegally if they are refugees. The fact that you want British citizens to stand around and watch children drown means, frankly, that your opinion is worth less than nothing.

Because there are millions of Muslims who live in peace and harmony in the UK.

We need to focus on the bad apples, not start demanding all Muslims are deported.

It's awful the lengths that some people will go to hurt others.

I do think that the current design of kitchen knives allows for maximum damage with minimum effort. Of course there's a black market for everything, and every house in the country already has a collection of sharp pointed knives, but changing the design of new knives would be a step in the right direction.

What I’m shocked about in reading a thread on a social media site and the post was someone wondering about travelling to the uk etc

loads of comments were “ in 60, 50 22 years I’ve never known anything like to this to happen on the trains etc it’s always been very safe “

have they all got very short memories ?

Listening to LBC and they said there will be a British Transport Police press conference some time after 9am leading up to 10am. I hope they are open and honest with the British Public.

And if people really were interested, they’d seek to understand the experience of the parents, grandparents and 2nd and 3rd generation kids. To understand what happened to make some of them so disenfranchised and angry that they do these things. Most people in this situation do not go on to commit these acts.

I am not saying that this makes terrorism acceptable and lets people off the hook by any stretch of the imagination, but anyone who genuinely wants to address this issue will make an effort to think critically, explore the intersectionality of people’s experiences to try and stop this happening again. Not have a rant on social media, throw some bricks at a hotel housing asylum seekers and put up some flags.